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Old 09-07-2005, 09:23 PM   #46
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you and your taking over of non political threads.
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:46 AM   #47
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How very Christian of you, dantodd. If you really wanted to complain about topicality, BatShit the main offender. Stupid + political + off topic!
I wasn't complaining about topicality only that I find purposfully demeaning another inappropriate. This thread has not been on topic since the first page. I think that the troll picture is intended to demean and not appropriate for that reason, has nothing to do with topicality.

BTW: I don't understand what you mean in your first sentence? Christian/non-Christian in what way?
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How very Christian of you, dantodd. If you really wanted to complain about topicality, BatShit the main offender. Stupid + political + off topic!
I wasn't complaining about topicality only that I find purposfully demeaning another inappropriate. This thread has not been on topic since the first page. I think that the troll picture is intended to demean and not appropriate for that reason, has nothing to do with topicality.

BTW: I don't understand what you mean in your first sentence? Christian/non-Christian in what way?
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:41 PM   #49
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How very Christian of you, dantodd. If you really wanted to complain about topicality, BatShit the main offender. Stupid + political + off topic!
I wasn't complaining about topicality only that I find purposfully demeaning another inappropriate. This thread has not been on topic since the first page. I think that the troll picture is intended to demean and not appropriate for that reason, has nothing to do with topicality.

BTW: I don't understand what you mean in your first sentence? Christian/non-Christian in what way?
Look, that pic I posted WASN'T the initial political trolling that was happening then. BatS#t crazy has been contributing nothing but trolling in these threads with his political comments. Most of the other posts I've made in that thread have been trying to talk about Sirius's offerings (or removal of oferrings) of content that we wanted on there. I wasn't going to right wing talk threads and demeaning their channels, was I? Batsh#t was asking for the response I gave him, and I finally felt the need to do so to call a spade a spade. That troll picture was intended to make a commentary of what I think the source of this political arguing was, in response to other attacks. Call it demeaning if you want, but in my mind a troll is a troll. And BatS#t Crazy has been starting most of the trolling here. It wasn't like I was putting that pic in other threads to start an argument by itself (myself being the troll then if I were to do so).

Instead of responding with a commentary on the trolling I saw, would you rather me have gotten into a political argument on this thread with him? I'm trying as much as you to fix this problem.
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Dantodd - Did you even consider that some of us read and post from work/the library/another public place where looking at pictures of full frontal nudity really isn't appropriate? I thought that Christians were against pornography (even soft core) and wouldn't be posting such pictures on a bulletin board, but I guess I was wrong. And weren't you the one who was complaining about the "Bush Sucks" avatar?
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Dantodd - Did you even consider that some of us read and post from work/the library/another public place where looking at pictures of full frontal nudity really isn't appropriate? I thought that Christians were against pornography (even soft core) and wouldn't be posting such pictures on a bulletin board, but I guess I was wrong. And weren't you the one who was complaining about the "Bush Sucks" avatar?
Yes I was. My point is that the posting WAS offensive. And it should have been. I am very glad that you took offense at it now you understand why I get offended when people degrade others. It doesn't matter if you agree with them or not, degradation is degradation.

As for the christian comments I am still lost. I am really beginning to suspect that you don't know what you are talking about.

I guess it is time to bail out of this off topic derailment.
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Back on topic, and hopefully we won't get "trolled" more here...

I wonder if there's soon going to be an exodus of progressive listeners from Sirius. Another blow was just struck today when Air America just announced that they are adding Thom Hartmann to their lineup. That was Sirius's ace in the hole (which they should have months ago made the full 9-noon PST host). First they lose Mike Malloy, then they lose Air America. Now they are losing their "satellite exclusiveness" of their best host Thom Hartmann too! And given that there are rumors now of Springer moving on to other things at Air America, don't be surprised if Stephanie Miller starts showing up on Air America in that time slot soon too. I think there's little left here for progressive listeners that can't be found elsewhere. Sorry for those that are still subscribed. I don't think there's much chance that I'll be back. Especially if Air America can find a way to get Mike Malloy on his regular slot on XM.
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Now that Air America is setting up a separate syndication service, which will include the Thom Hartmann show, perhaps those shows will be able to be aired on Sirius. Perhaps the people at Sirius knew about this before it was publicly announced, and that's why they've held off on another left channel.
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Now that Air America is setting up a separate syndication service, which will include the Thom Hartmann show, perhaps those shows will be able to be aired on Sirius. Perhaps the people at Sirius knew about this before it was publicly announced, and that's why they've held of \f on another left channel.
It could also mean that Thom Hartmann is increasingly frustrated with Sirius's inaction in getting his show live, and might move away from Sirius with next contract negotiation to being Air America exclusive too. The problem is that Sirius has done NOTHING to make it clear to the progessive listener that they care about them, and that they are working on such solutions for them. Time is running out. When XM moves Malloy to being live, that will be the final nail in the coffin. If Sirius has done nothing by then, you can stick a fork in them, they're done as far as the progressive listener is concerned. And this from a one time Sirius advocate that had a dog sticker in his car window.

If this is Sirius's plan, NOW is the time to announce this as a *real* strategy for them, and not a speculated about myth. I'm done speculating on a second channel for them. It is not going to happen, from what I can see. The market window for this has come and gone.
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I think it is pretty clear that Sirius doesn't anticipate airing a new liberal channel as this is on the new channel page on their website:

"Plus, listeners of Air America // Ch. 144 can experience America’s first coast-to-coast liberal talk channel, SIRIUS Left // Ch. 146, featuring The Alan Colmes Show, The Ed Schultz Show, The Stephanie Miller Show and other top-rated liberal talk shows and hosts. "
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Yes I was. My point is that the posting WAS offensive. And it should have been. I am very glad that you took offense at it now you understand why I get offended when people degrade others. It doesn't matter if you agree with them or not, degradation is degradation.
I hesitate to respond, but since you seem oblivious, I will. I wasn't offended by the pictures, but having full frontal nudity can cause a site to be blocked from public computers and it's users banned from using them. If you feel the need to make a point using naked pictures, paste a link or at least give a warning. I don't get what this is so hard to understand.
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You can't assume that just because a stream is labeled "christian" that it is conservative.

I know a TON of jesuits who are anything but conservative (Bernie Ward for one) Not to mention Jesse Jackson. I also know a lot of conservatives who are agnostic or atheistic. I am a bit offended at your generalization.

Perhaps this is meant as a replacement for The Word.
Amen to that, Dan.
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OK, reality check...

There are not that many Liberal Talk hosts out there. We know many are on AAR, and Sirius can't have them anymore. Others are exclusive to the big terrestrial companies (Clear Channel, Infinity, etc...) and are most likely stuck in those contracts.

I don't think a second Liberal/Progressive talk channel can be formed overnight. The loss of AAR was a blow to Sirius, no doubt. And to get a QUALITY second Left-Wing talk channel with more than one or two hosts will probably take more than a couple of months.

Sirius and XM both have only one Liberal Talk channel...and truth be told, given the current situation of progressive hosts, that may be all the market will support for now.
Is Phil Donahue under contract? I don't think he is and getting him exclusive would be a BRILLIANT pull for Sirius. I also think carrying Tavis on an exclusive call-in show during the weekends at Sirius would be great. Also for the AA trend of getting famous Liberals on like Franken and Garofalo, how about Warren Beatty? Seriously I would LOVE a call-in show with him exclusively on Sirius but that's me and I consider him my mentor in politics.
Btw name for Sirius Left 2: Sirius Santa Cruz.
Also for crossover shows I think Sirius should carry a Sirius Community that would carry shows from Community radio stations across the nation which would be great to fill in time as well and offer more selection for at least one show while saving bandwidth for a few hours.
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I agree Phil would be a good person for Sirius to have. His MSNBC show is done, and I am not sure what he is doing. He is a much more credible liberal voice than Jerry Springer.
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