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Old 10-18-2005, 09:08 PM   #31
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Phil Donahue got pulled because his ratings sucked.
I don't know where you get your facts but he had the highest rated show on MSNBC when he got fired. They axed him because he was against the war.

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I realize you live in an alternate universe from the rest of, I shouldn’t be surprised since so much of what you say is so well thought out.
I acknowledge that Phil's ratings weren't as good as O'Leillys. Still, he was the highest rated show on MSNBC at the time. Look it up. So to say it was due to "poor ratings" is only telling part of the story. MSNBC was pressured to pull Donohue during the build up to war. He was one of the few voices against the war at that time.
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:13 PM   #32
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What happened to this guy? I guess when you have your point exposed to be wrong you move on to start new thread about new lies.

Yep... Life's just one great big conspiracy theory for the hating libs out there.


Hey!? Did you hear that Ed Schultz got blackballed from AFR because some "Bush Stooge" said to do it!?!
You know it's amazing the coincidences you're willing to swallow. Ed Schultz plays the clip of her coaching the troops on Friday and just happens to not be premiered on Monday.
I suppose you also think it was a coincidence that Halliburton got all those no-bid contracts on rebuilding Iraq even though Dick Cheney was part of them and is the Vice President now.
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:27 PM   #33
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Phil Donahue got pulled because his ratings sucked.
I don't know where you get your facts but he had the highest rated show on MSNBC when he got fired. They axed him because he was against the war.

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I acknowledge that Phil's ratings weren't as good as O'Leillys. Still, he was the highest rated show on MSNBC at the time. Look it up. So to say it was due to "poor ratings" is only telling part of the story. MSNBC was pressured to pull Donohue during the build up to war. He was one of the few voices against the war at that time.
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NEW YORK (AP) --MSNBC fired Phil Donahue on Tuesday, abruptly ending the veteran talk show host's return to television after six months of poor ratings.

Donahue's final show will be Friday night. The news show that precedes him on the air, "Countdown: Iraq," temporarily will be expanded to two hours to replace him.

"We're proud of the program and we're disappointed that the show was not able to attract the viewership we had hoped for and expected," said Erik Sorenson, MSNBC president. "We thank Phil and his staff for their dedication, commitment and passion."

Donahue's office referred calls to his agent on Thursday, and he did not immediately return a call for comment.

The move was not a surprise. MSNBC hoped "Donahue" would provide a liberal counterweight to Fox News Channel's competing "The O'Reilly Factor," but the ratings started poorly and didn't improve.

MSNBC tried to tweak the show in November, putting Donahue in front of a live audience in New York instead of in a New Jersey studio, but it made little difference.

The political talk show format has yet to prove -- and may never -- that it can support a liberal voice, said Andrew Tyndall, head of ADT Research, a television news consulting firm.

Donahue's chances weren't helped by MSNBC's impatience, he said.
"They're very quick to cancel shows," Tyndall said. "Right from the start, they haven't settled on a format and let it grow so people can find it. If it's not working in a few months, they cancel it and move on to something else."

MSNBC also has sought a younger audience than its cable news rivals and the hiring of Donahue, 67, went against that strategy. "Anyone who's under 25 doesn't remember when his old talk show was on the air," Tyndall said.

During this month, a "sweeps" month in which ratings are watched closely to set advertising rates, "Donahue" averaged 446,000 viewers. O'Reilly drew 2.7 million viewers, up 28 percent from February 2002, according to Nielsen Media Research.

Connie Chung's CNN show that debuted shortly before "Donahue" averaged 985,000 viewers this month, Nielsen said.

"Countdown: Iraq," with Lester Holt as host, is one of the network's few success stories, occasionally inching past CNN to second in the cable news ratings.

Donahue was a nine-time Daytime Emmy winner for his syndicated talk show, which began in 1967 and aired nationally from 1970 to 1996, paving the way for dozens of such shows to follow.

He began his MSNBC show July 15 with a panel discussion on whether the United States should try to oust Saddam Hussein. On Monday night, with Rosie O'Donnell as guest, they talked about the same topic.
The show's failure is "a footnote" to Donahue's career, Tyndall said. "His legacy is unharmed," he said. "He invented an entire genre of television."


So lets recap, he was cancelled because of his ratings, O’Reilly was kicking his ass, and his show was getting not even half the audience of the show before it

Is it that you can't read or you don't? I guess you could be in total denial. I guess being a Liberal means you have to do that to get by.

985,000 is more viewers than 446,000 where I come from. Must be the new math.
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Old 10-20-2005, 11:49 AM   #34
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985,000 is more viewers than 446,000 where I come from. Must be the new math.
Trouble at home? Such hostility...

I dont deny that O'Reilly had more listeners. Got it?
All I'm saying is that Phil's show was the highest rated show on MSNBC. Got it?
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Old 10-22-2005, 09:57 PM   #35
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Phil Donahue vs Bill O'Reilly

Phil goes on the offensive immediately telling Billy that he's leading the pack to marginalize Cindy Sheehan.

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Old 10-24-2005, 05:00 PM   #36
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985,000 is more viewers than 446,000 where I come from. Must be the new math.
Umm, it says right there (in huge print, btw), that Chung was on CNN. Donahue was on MSNBC.
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Savage was on XM*... Has that changed? Like someone else said though, he's on 100+ markets and quite a few of those stations broadcast him online. He's available in his live slot most of those and maybe a couple other time slots online I think.

*Liddy is on both XM and Sirius though... I found that curious. I used to go to the XM sampler at Walmart during Savage's time slot, tune it to Savage, then walk away. The clerks were usually too busy with the lines to go to the XM demo radio and tune it back.
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:20 PM   #38
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Umm, 446,000 viewers is pretty damn good for MSNBC.

I don't know how many times it will take for you conservatives to understand this, but he was the highest rated show on MSNBC. Sure he didn't compare with O'Reilly, but NOTHING on CNN or MSNBC can compare with O'Reilly. Donahue and Olbermann have come the closest on MSNBC.
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Old 11-24-2005, 11:03 AM   #39
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Michael Savage, whose show is 'independently' syndicated, would be an EXCELLENT addition--He has a FANATICAL following (see his books on NY Times Best Seller list) which would only increase the Sirius subscriber base.

And while he's made several negative comments about sattelite radio, I thing enough $$$ would probably change his mind.
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Bring him on! He's got a lot of terrestrial stations, but travellers would love it if he was on Sirius. Send a few Savage and Liddy fans my way... The Savage haters can stay here...
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Savage will NEVER be on satrad again. I was listening to his show one night where he went into a tirade about how much he hates sat radio. A caller pointed out that he was on Sat radio, and he said he was going to demand he was taken off. Shortly thereafter he wasn't on XM or Sirius anymore. I don't understand why Savage has such an unreasonable hatred of Sat Radio, but he does. I doubt even a large stack of green would change his mind. No great loss in my opinion.
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Savage will NEVER be on satrad again. I was listening to his show one night where he went into a tirade about how much he hates sat radio. A caller pointed out that he was on Sat radio, and he said he was going to demand he was taken off. Shortly thereafter he wasn't on XM or Sirius anymore. I don't understand why Savage has such an unreasonable hatred of Sat Radio, but he does. I doubt even a large stack of green would change his mind. No great loss in my opinion.
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Yes, Savage said he'll never be on Satellite radio again as he's called it "crap" due to SAT being able to use any language, Savage being against OutQ (he didn't say the name but described the station), and Savage is against Howard very much, and more.

Savage said when SAT cleans up their act he'll return.

I would of loved to of been a fly on the wall listening in on the meeting when Savage wanted off SAT, however the company that broadcasts/sells Savage to stations and SAT wanted him on it due to the $$$. Savage must have pull to of gotten his way.
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You're kidding me right? I'm SO sick of this Liberal Media BS. If the media was honestly more Liberal then people like Thom Hartmann and Amy Goodman would get prime tv time on network or to a lesser extent Cable so don't give me that crap. I'm insulted EVERY time a Conservative even says the media is close to my interests, yeah they're really close considering for one there are almost NO Liberals on Cable or Network except for Alan Colmes. Earlier FOX had Juan Williams by himself and they dumped him as well as MSNBC dumping Phil Donahue.
Then you must be a damn fool. It speaks volumes about the left that they have the nerve to even mention, and whine about, Fox News. CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS - they all publicly endorsed the Democratic candidate this last election. The New York Times? Our "golden boy" of print? Biased as it gets. Ever hear of Keith Olbermann? The guy rips on convervatives non-stop. NO liberals on cable???? Try almost every 6 o'clock news anchor and reporter out there!! And then you go and mention a liberal on Fox - the same Fox which is such a whipping post for the left. Come on.
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And Re: Savage - I couldn't believe the frequency of commercials on that show. I only listened a handful of times, but it literally seemed like 5 minutes of talk, 10-15mins of commercials.
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