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Old 12-19-2006, 10:48 AM   #31
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John's OutQ Show was the one that IMHO represented the best of the gay communities. Occasionally riveting, occasionally boring, but it was almost always of value.

Compare his show to that of Derek and Romaine. Four hours of ego-driven potty talk. And BORING. If anyone should have been shown the door, they should have been.

OutQ was one of the reasons I bought Sirius over XM. Still a good move I think, but they lost something when John's show was cancelled. I hope his eventual permanent replacement is a talk show and not music. While I like Sunset Cruise on Sunday nights, six nights a week is overkill. And OutQ sounds like AM mono--not a good environment for music anyway.

And variety is what Sat Radio is all about! John's show bores me, but, D&R make me laugh!
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Old 12-20-2006, 07:22 PM   #32
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Here's another piece of the puzzle, on John McMullen's MySpace page:

http://www.myspace.com/johnmcmullenshow

...his current employer is listed as being Verboten Media (since November 2006).

The company's website:

http://www.verbotenmedia.com/

...reveals the company is a new joint venture between McMullen and Bob Guiney from "The Bachelor", as well as the following (listed among the venture's companies):

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The pioneer in broadcast programming serving the GLBT market via online, wireless data and satellite radio distribution.
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Old 12-29-2006, 01:10 AM   #33
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I managed to listen to enough of 'sunset cruise' the other night to hear them say that the weeknight airing of the show is only temporary. so they must have something lined up to fill his time slot sometime soon.
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We can only hope and pray. Sunset Cruise should be banned from Sirius car radios for fear of spontaneous narcolepsy brought on by intense boredom.
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Old 12-31-2006, 05:58 PM   #35
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I'm not upset he's gone. I want to be supportive of the channel but the day they moved Frank from after DnR to midday and then John to after DnR is the day I had to change my listening schedule.

He was so boring and each time I tried to listen I was amazed at how he lacked a sense of humor. Guests would try to joke with him and he'd completely miss the joke or step all over what was being said.

Now if they could just change up that morning show.
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The beauty of Sirius is it has so much to offer for different tastes. Insulting Derek & Romaine just cause it's not your cup of tea is distasteful. The have a good show and it's funny...(my taste) Hey, remember......YOU CAN CHANGE THE CHANNEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The beauty of Sirius is it has so much to offer for different tastes. Insulting Derek & Romaine just cause it's not your cup of tea is distasteful. The have a good show and it's funny...(my taste) Hey, remember......YOU CAN CHANGE THE CHANNEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The funny thing is, this is exactly the kind of thing that John Mcmullen did on his show. He would rail against DNR saying "bitches" and talking about sex while his own show's bumpers, guest hosts, and the man himself would occasionally indulge in the same vulgarities.

To be honest with you, when DNR played the "OutQ Evening Zoo" prank at their last anniversary, I thought the ultra boring host they found to stammer and stutter his way through the joke was actually John McMullen. Now I realize it was just somebody who could do a really good impersonation.

Look, John has good ideas about a show format that our community really is lacking. A sane, substantial, compassionate kind of show that finds worth in segments of the community that are generally overlooked such as gay seniors.

The problem really is, as has been mentioned here already, his hosting style is extremely lacking. Coupled with the hypocrisies that likes to indulge in, this makes for a completely unlistenable show in my opinion.

I'm sure that there are many people who will listen to his new show. I'm not one of them.

I'm also sure that he will continue to make substantial contributions to gay radio. Kudos to John for creating OutQ, which I have been enjoying since its inception.

It's too bad he wont come down off his moral high horse, which isnt as high as he would like to believe.



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Old 01-23-2007, 07:44 PM   #38
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I really wasn't sad to see him go. His show was the weakest link (even behind the music programming which I detest on OutQ).... and then he started trouble on his own internet show and made us all realize how unprofessional he really is.

I was hoping the Axe would strike again towards the morning show... but, alas, no
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I've always been open to compliments and criticisms of my work. That just goes with the territory. This is actually the first time I have ever posted anything to Backstage. That's because it is against SIRIUS company policy to post any message on a company-related message board while you're employed by them. And, for good reason. The company is publicly traded and anything you say while inside the organization can be a cause for concern.

Unlike some of my former colleagues, I never had a webmaster or cheerleader posting information on these boards, either. I just want to be clear about that.

So, today, I break the "message board" silence about my sudden departure from The Dog. I have read with some pride and some amusement, the various remarks that have been made here in this chain of sentiment. What it tells me is that I achieved much of what I set out to do when I built OutQ in 2002 and 2003. There is no way that you can build a radio station and have it be all things to all people in a community as diverse as the GLBT community is. I once had to explain to a Trans person that if I had to hire one of every conceivable type of person/personality in our community, I couldn't fit them into the 50-some stories of the McGraw Hill building in NYC where SIRIUS is HQ'd.

I knew that there are some people who find politics and current events boring. All they want is mindless entertainment... stuff to go through the day and night with and think that there is not a care in the world. And, so I created shows like OutQ in the Morning, Derek & Romaine and Frank DeCaro. On the other hand, everything about our lives is political and issue-driven, whether you want to face it or not, so I decided that those who thrive on that kind of programming would get it from Michelangelo Signorile and myself.

When you create something like OutQ and you're given virtually no resources to do it, it's not like you can go out and hire established stars. I commissioned a study from Witeck Combs and Harris Interactive prior to launching OutQ to survey a wide range of potential consumers and get some very specific direction as to what people would like. It wasn't about my personal biases. But, those people wanted Ellen DeGeneres and Margaret Cho. I was fairly certain, however, that they weren't about to drop what they were doing for a full-time gig in NYC on less than $75,000 a year.

Some people may recall that we launched OutQ with the Wayne Besen Show featuring co-host and producer Natalie Davis. That pairing didn't work out and the hatred between the two personalities went down the drain fast. Cheryl Barcenas was introduced to me by Derek Hartley and we auditioned her. She seemed to work out much better with Wayne, but sadly, the audience grew restless with his angry political agenda at 7 am Eastern. I worked with Wayne for weeks to try and get him to loosen up, but it just wasn't happening. It didn't help that he was self-sabotaging by doing crazy things like arranging trade-out's for botox with a doctor in exchange for promo (that wasn't approved by Sirius) on the air.

We had to make a change. Cheryl was retained and we auditioned Larry Flick and Jason Drew (some may remember Jason from Sirius Hits 1 and Broadway's Best channels). We wanted a fun, light and entertaining morning show. Jason was the more professional and experienced broadcaster, but brand new VP/Talk Jeremy Coleman didn't like Jason, so he directed me to hire Larry. And, Flick had promised to use his credentials from Billboard to bring a cavalcade of music stars to the show, which rarely happened once he got the gig.

Meanwhile, we had another disaster early in the day with a show that we didn't own internally called Harrison on the Edge. The host, Cary Harrison, and his business manager had stepped outside the bounds of their contract on several occasions, giving SIRIUS a multitude of legal headaches, and at the same time, this "funny" show started tackling World Bank and Weapons of Mass Destruction topics. Again, a step outside the format for morning programming. SIRIUS' legal department ended up severing the show and once again, I was the most hated man in OutQville.

Ultimately, in my quest to find someone who was entertaining and unapologetically Gay, I hired Frank DeCaro. This also gave me an opportunity to salvage a job for Doria Biddle, who had been a poorly paid slave for the Harrison show in LA, while working for them. Frank joined with the understanding that he'd be moved to LA for a west coast presence within a few months. But, when he decided to not go to Los Angeles, a decision was made to swap our dayparts. It made sense to put a later show live from the West Coast where much of the later listening audience was at. I was only too happy to know that I'd eventually be making the move out to the West Coast because of how bad things had become in dealing with SIRIUS management for me.

It is true that in July 2004, SIRIUS then-CEO Joe Clayton walked by the OutQ studio and saw a poster that indicated the President of the USA could go fornicate himself. While I had seen the poster in the studio, I was unaware of who put it up until this incident occurred. It turned out that the poster was put up by a part-timer who was a close personal friend of my boss, Mr. Coleman. He was the board operator for Derek & Romaine and Frank DeCaro... Ben Sparks. Mr. Sparks, who was responsible for the decline in the quality of D&R's show, constantly putting them up to doing pranks that violated the company's policies, took no responsibility for this. But, because ExecVP/Programming Jay Clark got his clock cleaned by CEO Joe Clayton, I was reprimanded and demoted from being Program Director. I didn't refuse to remove the poster. I was rebuked for not having the "foresight" to remove it before Joe (a right wing whacko if ever there was one) saw it and yelled at Jay.

While all this transpired, I continuously was hearing from people around New York and elsewhere that I was being ripped to shreads by Derek Hartley and Romaine Patterson when they were on and off the air. But, there was little I could do about this because of Dave Gorab being the new (straight) Program Director for OutQ. Although I had successfully developed, launched and continued to build OutQ, my experience as the only person operating such a 24/7 format, was dismissed and the man who'd previously been a call screener at WOR Radio Network, was now in charge.

I only mention this because I think people need an accurate understanding that the full weekend agenda of music was a creation against my extraordinary protests by Gorab and Coleman who insisted (contrary to thousands of listener e-mails I received) that people wanted to hear no talk on the weekends. But, this was to become standard operating practice at Sirius. Management on Talk and Music sides of the business regarded listeners as worthless SPERM (Self Proclaimed Experts of Radio & Music).

In fact, my marketing consultant in launching OutQ, Tom Rielly, and I, put our necks on the line for bringing the SIRIUS BACKSTAGE founders to New York and embracing them and all that they were doing. Jay Clark and Patrick Donnelly were LIVID. They saw BACKSTAGE as being the anti-Christ and an enemy to the business, instead of embracing it as the best of the best of SIRIUS fans. We managed to open the doors between TulaneJeff and his co-horts and the senior management at SIRIUS to open a new age in embracing the customer.

But, as time would go on, for whatever reason, Mr. Coleman saw my "smarts" as a threat to himself. Indeed, his boss Mr. Scott Greenstein was known to eat him for lunch in front of SIRIUS partners. Coleman looked for every possible opportunity to screw me over, and boy did he.

The final straw came when I made it clear to a publicist who had screwed over another GLBT business that I would never put any of his clients on the air again until he changed his way of doing business. That publicist called Mr. Coleman, complained, and in turn, I was fired for "violating the company's code of conduct," which is not true.

I was responsible for building a $20 Million+/year business for Sirius. I'm proud of that accomplishment. And, frankly, I don't care if some people did not like my show. So long as they enjoyed some facet of the schedule on SIRIUS OutQ, even if it was the back-stabbing and oft-egocentric personalities who grace early morning or evenings.

Do I have regrets? Yes. I wish that I had not been lured in to hiring people who would cash in on the death of a so-called friend. I wish I had not acquiesced to Coleman on the morning show front. I wish I had explained publicly that CENSORSHIP was definitely not _OFF at SIRIUS in 2004. And, I wish that I hadn't recommended a shock-talk-show executive producer of the Opie & Anthony Show for the job of VP, Talk Programming. But, it's history now.

Thanks to those of you who made the experience a great one. Just remember, none of the people you hear today would be in radio if it hadn't been for the team of Walter Sabo and John McMullen who lobbied for the station landing on SIRIUS.

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Old 02-04-2007, 09:20 AM   #40
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Thank you very much for that post John. It is interesting to see what happens behind the closed doors of a company. I, and the entire Backstage team I'm sure, always had the utmost respect for you and what you did to OutQ. I never got the chance to meet you, although I did see you doing your show back when I toured Sirius in 2004. It was folks like you, Tom Reilly, and Ron Rodrigues that understood the relationship between Sirius and the listeners, Sirius and Sirius Backstage, etc., that many of the people at Sirius corporate cannot seem to fathom. I still cannot believe that they have a straight man in charge of programming OutQ.

Good luck in your future endeavors, and hopefully you can get your show onto another media platform shortly. For those who did not read earlier in the thread, John is doing a weekly show right now at johnmcmullen.com live Wednesdays from 8-11 ET.
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Damn. I'm really sorry to hear of this John. Nothing worse than having wolves at your back.

OutQ is programmed by a straight guy? Well, that explains the god awful Sunset Cruise show. It's stupid if you ask me. That's like having a rock programmer program an Opera station. Sure, it can be done, but most likely not very well.

I'm also shocked that Sirius believes that us backstagers are S.P.E.R.M., when in fact, we're some of Sirius' most die hard fans. Most of us have spent more money in equipment than the average person with Sirius, and we're more likely to have multiple subs. That almost gives us the right to kvetch!

But I guess I can't expect too much from the same people who have made more blunders than I can list right now financially, technologically, and programming wise. Most of these would have been avoidable had it not been due to a complete lack of foresight.

I guess have extremely mixed feelings about Sirius now.
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I have mixed feeling about McDonald's, but I still eat there...

My point is, there's nothing you or I can really do about it. We can bitch to Sirius all we want, about anything Sirius, and nothings really going to change anything. Short of leaving, we really have no say in the matter...

>>>John, good luck on your future endeavors. I only listen to Frank DeCaro, on OutQ. The funny stuff make me happy. Stopped listening to political stuff years ago. Just brings me too down.

Take care and good luck...
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John is the premiere pioneer in GLBT radio. I am grateful to him for bringing us OutQ back in April 2003. I hope to hear him on Satellite Radio again. (Pay attention XM programmers.) The time when John had Corey Johnson as Co Host was absolutely golden. Great pair of personalities. And Corey is such a top notch political analyst. The two of them also exposed the ludicrousness of many including Fred Phelps when the two of them raised thousands of dollars for the Matthew Shepard Foundation.

John Mcmullen knows how to work radio, keep it entertaining, relevant, and meaningful, he stands second to no one in the market, and I hope to hear him again on a national scale in the near future.
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I think John's show was best when Corey was with him. Although I always found the show informative and entertaining, the two of them had a great chemistry and it was a hard listen initially after Corey left.
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I have mixed feeling about McDonald's, but I still eat there...

My point is, there's nothing you or I can really do about it. We can bitch to Sirius all we want, about anything Sirius, and nothings really going to change anything. Short of leaving, we really have no say in the matter...
outq has commercials.. if you want to hit them where it counts , contact the sponsors of outq, tell them why you will be specifically not buying their products .. money talks
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