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Old 12-16-2003, 10:47 AM   #136
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Manco,

Quite frankly, Movin' Easy shouldn't be compared
to the Totally '70s stream.

On Movin' Easy there is a lot of the contemporary
'70s artists that were yanked off the Totally '70s stream.

However....

Movin' Easy is a collage of music over several decades.

It is true that Totally '70s will take on a lot of this music,
but one should be careful about saying one channel will be too
much like the other. Though some of the same music will share
both streams, the Totally '70s should be concentrating on
just that era.

Right now, one could easily say that Totally '70s and
The Rock are playing the same exact stuff.

In a perfect Sirius world, Totally '70s should be a
combination of sounds that one would hear on The Rock,
Movin' Easy, Soul Revue
and The Strobe. In
addition, the channel needs to pull in additional music that
was specific to that era from artists like Vickie Sue
Robinson, The Hughes Corporation, Shirley & Co., Redbone,

etc.

None of this is happening yet.
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Old 12-16-2003, 10:50 AM   #137
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I'm not comparing MovingEZ to the 70's stream. I was just pointing out my appetite is satisfied for many 70's songs on that stream. What I don't want to have happen is for me to hear the Carpenters on MovingEZ, then switch to the 70's stream and hear the same song. The repetition would increase for me since I listen to both streams.
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Old 12-16-2003, 10:55 AM   #138
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Manco,

I would hope you wouldn't hear the same Carpenters
song within the same hour on both channels.

However...

It's inevitable that you will hear the same songs across
many of your favorite channels. With approx. 60 music
channels to choose from how could music and artists not
cross over into other streams?

As I stated above...Totally '70s should be playing
the same songs you would hear on The Rock, Movin' Easy,
Soul Revue
and The Strobe.


Please continue to send your concerns to:


Ron Rodrigues: rrodrigues@siriusradio.com
Kid Kelly: kkelly@siriusradio.com
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Old 12-16-2003, 03:09 PM   #139
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I am noticing some slight changes to the music but it is still not enough. Bee Gees Night Fever and stuff like that being added in is nice but it is still too safe. Play some of the mainstream pop staples that are not heard on every KTel Records release and played at every bad Italian wedding you go to.
Andrea True Connection
Coven One Tin Soldier
Billy Dont be a Hero
Leo Sayer- You make me Feel like Dancing
Hues Corp Rock The Boat
Gwen McRae- Rocking Chair
Dr Hook Cover of a Rolling Stone
Please Come To Boston
Shannon
Starland Vocal Band- Afternoon Delight
These were all huge pop hits that you don't hear anymore, well at least not since the summer on Sirius anyway!
Who is programming this station? Time for a change of programmers.
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Old 12-16-2003, 03:48 PM   #140
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Update

Guys and gals,

After briefly exchanging email with Sirius today, I don't
think we are going to get the '70s channel we want.

Sirius is dead set on their programming philosophy despite
the fact that they indicate they DO listen to their subscribers.

I urge everyone reading this thread to send email to both
Ron Rodrigues and Kid Kelly at the email addresses
I have indicated above.

Even if you have already sent email -- send it again.

Be polite. Be professional. Tell them that thir Totally
'70s
channel is basically classic rock. Tell them what
you want to hear and what you don't want to hear. Let them
them know you are tired of repetition.

I cannot stress how important it is that all of you send letters
and that you are polite in what you say.

Thank You.
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Old 12-16-2003, 03:56 PM   #141
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Originally Posted by NJRonbo
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Guys and gals,

After briefly exchanging email with Sirius today, I don't
think we are going to get the '70s channel we want.

Sirius is dead set on their programming philosophy...
I find this news, if true, quite disappointing. Why do you feel, NJRonbo, that you don't think Sirius is going to change? Have you gotten an email from someone at Sirius which makes you feel this way? Or do you have other insider info for which you are basing this statement?

I think I may have to swallow the $75.00 deactivation fee, sell my Streamer, and go with XM if Sirius continues to refuse to listen to their listeners, their paying audience.

This sucks! But I have myself to blame for not listening longer to each 70s stream on Sirius and XM. I just assumed, obviously wrongly, that a stream dedicated to the 70s decade would play a balanced mix of music from that decade. How stupid of me.
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Old 12-16-2003, 04:08 PM   #142
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RONBO & Dad,
It DOES sound like they are making an effort to fix this channel. It is getting a little more pop. It has a far way to go, but lets give them a chance.
I heard Lady Marmalade and definitely a more pop leaning mix today. It is still too soft and safe, but hopefully they will fix this too.
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Old 12-16-2003, 04:12 PM   #143
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Guys and gals,

After briefly exchanging email with Sirius today, I don't
think we are going to get the '70s channel we want.

Sirius is dead set on their programming philosophy...
I find this news, if true, quite disappointing. Why do you feel, NJRonbo, that you don't think Sirius is going to change? Have you gotten an email from someone at Sirius which makes you feel this way? Or do you have other insider info for which you are basing this statement?

I think I may have to swallow the $75.00 deactivation fee, sell my Streamer, and go with XM if Sirius continues to refuse to listen to their listeners, their paying audience.

This sucks! But I have myself to blame for not listening longer to each 70s stream on Sirius and XM. I just assumed, obviously wrongly, that a stream dedicated to the 70s decade would play a balanced mix of music from that decade. How stupid of me.
You're not stupid. Check out the repetition thread under Sirius Music. There are other disappointed subcribers regarding the lack of variety on various streams. Programming on Sirius has got to get better or else I'm defecting.
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Old 12-16-2003, 04:29 PM   #144
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Guys,

Have been talking to someone at Sirius.

Have been also invited to their studios in NYC at the end
of the month to talk to them personally.

They have been very responsive and gracious to me.

However, they have made it clear that the '70s Decade
channel will not live up to our expectations. They have sort of made
it clear that this will not be anything near XM Radio's '70s channel.
They refuse to go into any more detail with me via email, which
I understand. They would rather have me visit them and sit down
and talk.

Until I can talk to these gentlemen, I can't put my finger on
why they run their programming the way they do. What seems
to really bother me here is that unlike XM, Sirius is funded mostly
through member subscriptions. More than anything, Sirius should
be paying close attention to what their subscribers want.

However, in this case, it seems Sirius has conducted
marketing surveys that tell them that people don't want to listen
to pop and contemporary music on a '70s channel. It seems
they also have adopted a policy of repetition so that listeners
always hear hits all the time -- even if its the same songs and
artists day in and day out. No deep cuts allowed.

How much more of Fleetwood Mac and The Doobie Brothers are
we supposed to endure? I listened to classic rock on FM radio for
8 years of my life and I am sick of that music because it is just
so overplayed.

It is VERY important that all of you continue to send emails to
Sirius management. I already provided you with two email
addresses and I am hoping that other members here provide
more as you have done in other threads.

Sirius claims that they pay attention to email suggestions
despite the fact that loads of email have been sent to them
regarding this matter with very little results.

All of us hate to sound like Internet whiners, but we all invested
our hard-earned money into this service and all of us are sort of
being left with the feeling that Sirius is a service that relies more
on the cookie-cutter philosophy that destroyed AM/FM radio than
listening to the people that matter most -- its audiance.
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Old 12-16-2003, 04:35 PM   #145
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I host M-F noon-6p ET on "Totally 70's". I can't say too much here, other than, stay tuned (January or February-hint, hint). I am not speaking for anyone in programming or management at Sirius, just myself, but I have read all your posts. I love your passion for all the songs you've been missing. I agree, there should be a place to hear ALL the hits of the 70's. Keep in mind that we are also trying to attract new subscribers, and playing hits that "test well" with potential subs is part of that strategy. The "average listener" is very different from you guys, they tend to react negatively to a lot of 70's pop. as opposed to rock hits. The 50's and 60's folks grew up with hearing everything on one station, many 70's people did not. Top 40 was still very popular, but radio was starting to splinter and many listeners only listened to AOR or R&B (Soul) stations by then. If you have any specific suggestions, send them to me at dtandler@sirius-radio.com and I will pass them along to the people above me who make the music decisions for the channel. And, yes, you can make specific song e-quests to me at that address. I'll make sure the song gets scheduled (as long as it's not TOO obscure! lol--sorry, it has to have been a hit of some sort) and I'll let you know exactly when it will be played on my show. Please, only one request per person per week, I already get a lot of them. Thanks!!!
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Old 12-16-2003, 04:54 PM   #146
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Don,

Thanks so much for contributing here. I listen to
your show regularly.

Quote:
...they tend to react negatively to a lot of 70's pop.
Makes me wonder why they even tune into the stream
in the first place. What do people expect from a '70s channel?

In any event, thanks for reading our opinions here.
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Old 12-16-2003, 05:04 PM   #147
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NJRonbo:
I appriciate your posts and your passion for the 70's cause. But how did someone who's been a subscriber for only a few weeks get all this inside info, gracious responses from Sirius etc, and nobody else has?
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Old 12-16-2003, 05:11 PM   #148
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Because he is the owner of a site that gets millions of hits every week, and he posted a huge review of Sirius and XM on the front page of his site.

Dan, I would like to know what qualifies as a hit? How about songs that made it to the Top 40 during any point in that particular decade? I would think that any of those songs would be candidates for being played on Sirius, maybe not as often as more popular songs, but at least somewhat.
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:06 PM   #149
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I appriciate your posts and your passion for the 70's cause. But how did someone who's been a subscriber for only a few weeks get all this inside info, gracious responses from Sirius etc, and nobody else has?
This is tough to answer because much of what I have
been told has been done through sources that wish to
stay anonymous.

Let's just say lots Phone calls and emails. I have been VERY
agressive in trying to get our point across. The fact that I also
run a huge website that has done a story on XM vs. SIRIUS
helped get my foot in the door.

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Dan, I would like to know what qualifies as a hit? How about songs that made it to the Top 40 during any point in that particular decade? I would think that any of those songs would be candidates for being played on Sirius, maybe not as often as more popular songs, but at least somewhat.
Joshua brings up a good point.

Really, none of the popular top 40 songs from that decade are
being played on Totally '70s.

As a disc jockey, I wonder Dan how you feel about the fact
that Sirius created a '70s channel that anyone would expect to
represent the entire decade of music, yet only repetitive classic
rock? I understand your point about some people being turned
off by the cornball pop music of that era -- but frankly, if that
is the case, why would they visit a Totally '70s channel
in the first place? What else would you expect that channel to
represent?
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:08 PM   #150
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Guys,

Have been talking to someone at Sirius.

Have been also invited to their studios in NYC at the end
of the month to talk to them personally.
NJ, good luck in your trip. And of course we look forward to you writing a trip report and posting it here first Maybe they can offer you the programming job
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