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Old 12-16-2003, 06:10 PM   #151
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I appriciate your posts and your passion for the 70's cause. But how did someone who's been a subscriber for only a few weeks get all this inside info, gracious responses from Sirius etc, and nobody else has?
Good point.

NJRonbo,
I don't doubt your concerns and motives are genuine, but geez, you certainly have got some clout. How come?

By the way, tonight I'm going to listen to a full 20 minutes of XM's 70s channel and a full 20 minutes of Sirius's "Almost Totally 70s" channel. If I like XM better, well, it's been nice knowin' ya.

Also, I'm a little offended the possible wants and needs of a possible subscriber out weigh the wants of someone who's already committed to Sirius. This attitude that Sirius has makes me wonder if they think once they've set the hook, made you a subscriber then they can ignore your concerns. Well, like I said: XM you get a second chance tonight!
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:15 PM   #152
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By the way, tonight I'm going to listen to a full 20 minutes of XM's 70s channel and a full 20 minutes of Sirius's "Almost Totally 70s" channel. If I like XM better, well, it's been nice knowin' ya.
Twenty minutes is not enough to compare. That's only 5 songs. Try listening for at least a full day to each. I've been listening to 70's for hours almost every day, and it's improved and more satisfying, but they still have some work to do.
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:17 PM   #153
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Maybe they can offer you the programming job
I'll do it

I think I can program a better '70s channel. I own just
about every single that came out of that era. I know the music
better than most. I own extended versions of songs that some
of you may not even know existed after all these years.

If I ran Totally '70s I would make it a fun and
entertaining experience for its listeners. It would be the
absolute BEST decades channel on the lineup. You would
hear a mix of contemporary, R&B/SOUL and classic rock.
In addition, I would throw in once a week a top 50 countdown
show from a particular date, giving the listener the opportunity
to hear "oddities" that don't get played often. I'd also throw
in generous portions of extended versions of 70s classics that
came off of the albums or were remixed for clubs. In addition,
I'd even throw in some recent remixes of '70s classics done by
modern DJs. It would be the most diverse collection of '70s
music played on any channel.

In short, it would blow the pants off XM Radio's '70s channel.

.....and that's what we all want here, right?
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:20 PM   #154
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Maybe they can offer you the programming job
I'll do it

I think I can program a better '70s channel. I own just
about every single that came out of that era. I know the music
better than most. I own extended versions of songs that some
of you may not even know existed after all these years.

If I ran Totally '70s I would make it a fun and
entertaining experience for its listeners. It would be the
absolute BEST decades channel on the lineup. You would
hear a mix of contemporary, R&B/SOUL and classic rock.
In addition, I would throw in once a week a top 50 countdown
show from a particular date, giving the listener the opportunity
to hear "oddities" that don't get played often. I'd also throw
in generous portions of extended versions of 70s classics that
came off of the albums or were remixed for clubs. In addition,
I'd even throw in some recent remixes of '70s classics. It
would be the most diverse collection of '70s music played on
any channel.

In short, it would blow the pants off XM Radio's '70s channel.

.....and that's what we all want here, right?
Ok, now you have me excited! At a minimum negotiate to program a weekend special (since they run those once in awhile) and give us a taste of what it could be
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:25 PM   #155
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By the way, tonight I'm going to listen to a full 20 minutes of XM's 70s channel and a full 20 minutes of Sirius's "Almost Totally 70s" channel. If I like XM better, well, it's been nice knowin' ya.
Fotodad,

This is what you do.

Get a paper and pen.

Play both services together for one hour.

Write down all the songs and artists that each channel plays
in that one hour.

Give us a list of what Xm '70s Decade plays vs.
what Sirius Totally '70s plays. Post your results
in a side-by-side list.

It's been done already here with alarming results (XM won
on diversity, SIRIUS lost on classic rock).

We'd like to read your results.
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:58 PM   #156
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First of all, I want to thank Don Tanler for taking time to not only read this board, but to respond to our concerns.

Secondly, I want to give you all some background. I am 42 years old. I grew up in the 70s and I ooze 70s music. Every Saturday morning I would be at K-mart and purchase every new song that charted that week along with the top 40 countdown sheet. I have a minor in Communications and my radio production professor was one of the top local DJs during the 70s. I am far from being an expert, but I know what I like.

If XM has 1 million subscribers and also offer a 70s stream, wouldnt it seem to be reasonable to say that if they were doing something that listeners didnt like the listeners would be complaining? Yet, I have never seen a negative word about the 70s stream on XMFan. I agree with the above poster that said it didnt make sense for Sirius to risk angering current subscribers because potential subscribers wanted to hear a certain type of music. If Sirius is advertising a Totally 70s stream, then all of the 70s music should be played. I am not suggesting playing the B side, but any song that charted in the top 40 should be fair game. We took the time to list a myriad of artists and songs that we would like to hear. How much simpler can it get? If a listener tuned to the 70s stream, I am going to assume they want to hear 70s music not just classic 70s rock. When I think of a 70s stream, I think of all 70s artists and music -- Barry Manilow, Bee Gees, etc.

Thanks for lettering me voice my opinion and blowing off some stream.
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For all of you reading this far into the thread.

I have been told that the only way to convince the current
Vice President of Programming to make the necessary changes
is to write a postal letter.

Please read this thread for more information....

http://www.siriusbackstage.com/forum...pic.php?t=4415
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Old 12-16-2003, 08:04 PM   #158
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Good Post Joybandit
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Old 12-16-2003, 11:50 PM   #159
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After visiting SiriusBackstage for several days now, and after listening to the streams via Sirius' web site, I think I've come to a few conclusions.

1. The truth is, I don't think there will ever be a 70s station that plays what I really want to hear. I think I'll be better off visiting the iTunes store and buying my favorite 70s songs, even if it ends up, over time, costing me a LOT of money.

2. I'm starting to see Manco's point, in that MovinEasy plays a lot of the songs that I'm looking to hear from a 70s station. For example, right now I'm listening to Seals & Croft's "Diamond Girl," on MovinEasy. That's a cool 70s song, isn't it?

3. Although I truly appreciate NJ's zeal and idealism, I'm wondering if I might better allocate my energies doing something more useful than badgering a corporate executive who probably doesn't care what a handful of rabble-rousers (like me) have to say. Let's face it, anyone who has ever worked for a large corporation knows that management doesn't know what's really going on at the working end of things, and what's more, management doesn't care to know. All they care about are the numbers, because their bonuses are based on the numbers. And don't tell me that there's more money in following the wishes of the consumer. If you really believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you. For corporate executives, the money is in keeping your job until next year's bonus, and until the stock options mature. You keep your job by playing it safe, and always, ALWAYS covering your ass. It's better to do a poor job that can be justified by reams of paperwork, than in doing a great job that some competing executive wonk can use against you in the vicious world of corporate politics. Instead of writing letters, we'd all be better off lighting votive candles and saying a prayer.

4. Ideally, I'd have both Sirius AND XM. That way, from XM I'd get my NASCAR Radio, I'd get my mellow New Age, and I'd get Art Bell. From Sirius, I'd get my NPR, I'd get my MovinEasy, and I'd get World Talk.

5. My final conclusion: I don't have that kind of jack, Jack. So, in the end, I'll have to choose between the two...
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Old 12-17-2003, 07:03 AM   #160
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I hope you make the right choice for you.

Meanwhile, how much IS that bridge?

--The Interpreter, who DOES believe there is more money to made in satisfying customers (ask K-Mart..they lost their way and badly, by giving customers what they THOUGHT they SHOULD want...)
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Old 12-17-2003, 10:38 AM   #161
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Hi, Tom!

Welcome aboard and Welcome to Sirius!

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Although I truly appreciate NJ's zeal and idealism, I'm wondering if I might better allocate my energies doing something more useful than badgering a corporate executive who probably doesn't care what a handful of rabble-rousers (like me) have to say.

Our "badgering" has actually made a difference, though small,
over the past few weeks. Thanks to all the posts here and
email that has been sent to Sirius execs, there are changes
being planned.

The problem is that we don't know how far Sirius will go
in restoring Totally '70s. Will they just add a few more
songs to try to appease us or bring back ALL the songs they cut
from their playlist.

I think everyone's efforts to write Jay Clark will ultimately help
the cause. I understand what you are saying about "numbers"
and "bonuses," but there is also an issue of subscribers like me
who will cancel their Sirius subscription should this company
continue its repetition and shortened playlists across all its
channels. Sirius cannot survive with its current programming
philosophy. There are too many people on this forum already
who are voicing their displeasure at the same songs being played
over and over again.

How long do you think it will be till average listeners get
aggravated about hearing the same songs on their car radio?
Already, a co-worker of mine is complaining about the
repetition on The Vault. People are noticing that
Sirius doesn't have the a vast music library in motion.

As bad as XM commercials were, I'd rather go back to that
than listen to the same music and artists every day.

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I'm starting to see Manco's point, in that MovinEasy plays a lot of the songs that I'm looking to hear from a 70s station.
True, but in the end, Movin' Easy is not a 70s channel.

What channel is there for those of us that want their 70s fix?
Where can we hear Rock The Boat, I Think I Love You,
Show Me The Way, MacArthur Park, Have You Ever Been Mellow,
Can't Get Enough Of Your Babe
and Don't Look Back
all on the same stream?

Trust me, the XM '70s decade channel is fantastic! I have no
doubt that with proper thought, Sirius could do a better job!
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Old 12-17-2003, 11:57 AM   #162
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Also, I'm a little offended the possible wants and needs of a possible subscriber out weigh the wants of someone who's already committed to Sirius. This attitude that Sirius has makes me wonder if they think once they've set the hook, made you a subscriber then they can ignore your concerns. Well, like I said: XM you get a second chance tonight!
You know, I thought the same exact thing. What about US.
I'll wait and see what happens next month.
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Old 12-17-2003, 12:24 PM   #163
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OMG!!! Afternoon Delight is playing right now
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Old 12-17-2003, 07:04 PM   #164
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Funniest of all, I know several ardent Movin Easy fans. About the time that Totally Seventies quit playing most pop, it moved onto Movin Easy, which had been mostly 50's, 60's, some 40's and the rare later day gentle easy listening tune.

Those fans I know are FURIOUS about the amount and type of 70s music on Movin Easy. They wish it would go back wherever it came from!
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Old 12-17-2003, 07:40 PM   #165
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All I can say is hammer the forces that be with SNAIL MAIL, this is what gets read. Emails do not carry the weight as much as the real deal....sent mine off today. Its your right to let them know what you want- if they dont hear then they figure they have it right.
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