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Old 11-29-2003, 11:32 PM   #31
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I tune in the Strobe to get a dose of Disco to go with my 70's

Did anyone listen to the 70's during Labor Day weekend? They played every number one hit of the decade and it was cool. I know some of the songs that you listed were played which means they hit number 1.
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Old 11-30-2003, 12:15 AM   #32
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Did anyone listen to the 70's during Labor Day weekend? They played every number one hit of the decade and it was cool. I know some of the songs that you listed were played which means they hit number 1.
Yep, I listened all weekend and both 60s Vibrations and Totally 70s were nothing short of amazing. We'd be set if everyday was Labor Day.

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We'd be set if everyday was Labor Day.

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Yeah, but would we get every day off or would we have to labour?
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Old 11-30-2003, 08:52 AM   #34
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I am very impressed with the fact that an exec from
Sirius took the time to write me a reply via private email.
I don't want to print the contents of the email nor directly
quote this person, because I feel the mail was meant to
be private and I respect that.

Basically, while I believe Sirius hears our complaints about
the Totally 70s channel going classic rock, I don't
get the impression that they are going to change things in
the immediate future.

When a letter of reply starts talking about what market
researchers think about what we want to listen to, I know
the game is over.

I get the impression that Sirius is being run by the same
sort of marketing force that drove FM radio to the ground.
There shouldn't be any marketing research done as far as
what "they" think "we" want to listen to.

This is not rocket science and once you put too much
thought into the music that should be played, you have
ruined the station.

A Totally 70s channel should be all about the
70s decade. Not classic Rock. This morning, driving into
work, I heard 5 rock songs in a row. No pop. No disco.
No R&B. No Country. No Adult Contemporary.

Is this what marketing people are telling Sirius to play?

Look, this isn't FM radio. People are subscribing to this
service because they want to get away from the cookie-cutter
formula that drove FM to the ground. Read the things that
are getting posted in this forum. People have asked...no
they have demanded that Totally 70s be a channel
that represents the entire genre of music that made that
decade.

Why are marketing people even getting involved in something
so simple as this?

I'm very sad that Sirius doesn't see the same logic in its
music programming that XM Radio does. I gave up XM Radio
because of the commercial pollution. Please don't make me
go back to XM Radio because this service can't keep CLASSIC
ROCK in its own area and give us the 70s music we expect.

I hope I have been very polite in my views here. I'm not
here to start an uprising. I think all the points I have made
make perfect sense. I also think the majority of members here
agree that the Totally 70s channel needs to go back
to its original intent.

I don't think all hope is lost. These guys at Sirius seem to
take interest in what goes on within these message areas. That's
a good thing for all of us.
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Old 11-30-2003, 08:57 AM   #35
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Ah, but the question is this: do the readers/posters here represent large enough a constituency to make Sirius a profitable service? Do you suggest that Sirius can decide what to play based only on the opinions of those who post here?

Do not the opinions of the thousands of others WHO SUBSCRIBE (I hope!) but do not frequent this forum amount to anything?

Those who contact Sirius are a vocal minority. The important part for Sirius is it MUST satisfy those who will pay its bills. To suggest that no market research is necessary is folly.

I agree, however, that we already have one classic rock stream (actually two--The Rock and The Vault). Why do we need a third?
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Old 11-30-2003, 09:53 AM   #36
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While I agree with the point of view that those who post here probably make up a small but vocal part of the Sirius audience, I would want to know why then is NO ONE clamoring for no changes to Totally 70s? When even a small group speaks up, usually it does represent a larger group's view, albeit in microcosm form. Marketing is one thing, and yes it has to be done, but marketing Sirius as another form of FM radio is not the answer. NJ is right when he says that is what ruined regular radio, and drove most of us to XM and Sirius. My biggest gripe is that Sirius says it listens to it listeners, it is listener driven- I for one am not so sure this is true. Yesterday I carefully listened to the Totally 70s stream for some time, about 70% of the music played can be catagorized as classic rock hits, that really isnt what made up the 70s -totally!! We dont need a 3rd classic rock stream, we need a true 70s one. As for wanting to make Sirius more acceptable to the buying public, if their reasoning is this is what will succeed and what we really want, why does XM go the other direction and have such success? If one satellite service is obviuosly being hugely successful, does itmean you have to be a clone or copy cat of it? No, but it likewise doesnt mean you have to be the opposite of it either. One can follow success and improve upon it. Food for thought?
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Old 11-30-2003, 12:01 PM   #37
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AZJoe, I agree with most of your points. I do believe Sirius listens, but incorporating change takes someone that believes in a direction and can have the confidence to implement it or get it implemented. I'm not sure the 70's stream has someone to drive it as much as some of the other streams.

I have been listening to the 70's more just to make sure of NJronbo and others points and I agree there's lot's of classic rock and is in need of some balance. I love the music they play, but I think they need more of those pop hits that have been discussed.

They sprinkle the 70's music around the streams so I get a dose of them by listening to several streams. MovingEZ and Starlight play some as does the Strobe. But many songs go unplayed. "Seasons In the Sun" just to pick an example I think I've only heard on the labor day weekend even though it was a number 1 hit (not that I care to hear it again )
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I'll let you in on something. I have been a DJ for many
years. Used to do it professionally as a business. I know
more about 70s music than most. It shouldn't surprise any
of you that 70s music is the most requested music at parties
and weddings.

I have a collection of 70s music that would astound you,
including tons of extended versions of hits that you may
have thought never existed.

I sit here and imagine what Totally 70s could be
like if done properly. I think that with the right frame of
mind at the helm, that station could be turned into the most
listened to music channel on the entire Sirius spectrum.

I have a huge belief in Sirius' potential. I think they already
have an advantage over XM radio for the fact that they don't
play commercials. I just think that they need to rethink their
programming strategy when it comes to their decades channel.

The members of this forum have pointed this out quite clearly ---
WE are the people subscribing to Sirius. Sirius does not rely
on commercial profit, but rather, what comes out of the listener
pockets. The largest amount of feedback they receive happens
right here on this message board. It is here that YOU the
subscriber tells the radio station how you feel and what you
want to hear.

I think Sirius is going to be huge. I think they have such a
golden opportunity in front of them to kick some XM butt. All
it takes is for the folks at Sirius to do a little more listening to
the people that actually pay the bills for the station.

I believe Sirius will eventually listen to us. I look forward to
the day they surpass XM in subscribers because of it.
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Old 11-30-2003, 02:48 PM   #39
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I have to admit (although I dont want to) that XM 70s stream has Sirius 70s stream beat. Anyone can justify the fact that their is an R&B stream for 70s songs that are R&B and the Strobe stream for the disco hits, but lets face it 70s music is 70s music. You cant change the variety of music that was played during that time period. XM has it well covered. They play a good mix of songs that charted during that period. I too am a big 70s fan and I remember going to K-mart every Saturday, picking up the Top 100 countdown sheet and any 45 that I did not already have.

I am sure Sirius program directors have a reason for the way they program the decade streams the way they do. But the 70s had such a variety of types of music -- Rhythm and Blues, Rock, Disco, etc. That is what the 70s stream on Sirius should be -- a combination of all those sounds not just classic rock or pop. Just my opinion.
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Old 11-30-2003, 06:10 PM   #40
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Basically, while I believe Sirius hears our complaints about the Totally 70s channel going classic rock, I don't get the impression that they are going to change things in the immediate future.
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I don't doubt Sirius hears us. But are they really listening? I'm beginning to wonder. :\

Sirius, Listen to your customers. All too often, research studies are created for very small audiences: usually limited to the cherry-picked focus groups or the company consultant! You are not your customer! Talk to your customers, listen to their responses, and base your service and business on their needs and feedback. Every interaction you have with a subscriber, whether by 'phone, email or in person, is an opportunity to discover how well you're serving their needs. Learn to ask the opening questions that will get them talking, and then shut up and listen. Don't defend, don't explain: just listen.

Your Customer Isn't An Idiot. Now, regardless of how you feel Totally 70s or the rest of the Sirius service should be run, refusing to listen is just a bad idea.

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Old 11-30-2003, 08:11 PM   #41
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I listened to "Totally 70s" for a good portion of the day. I heard classic rock after classic rock after classic rock. With two lone pop tunes (probably put on the play list by accident) grudgingly making an appearance. I have to apologize to XM for not giving their 70s channel more of a chance.

If I decide to switch to XM because I find their 70s stream plays more of a balance between pop and rock classics, what are my choices now that I have Sirius? Am I basically screwed for a year (I bought a year subscription)? Or I read on a thread where XM has a device where I can get their service even though I am a Sirius subscriber.

I truly hope Sirius listens to what I believe is a vocal minority reflecting the views of a majority and plays 50% pop 70s tunes AND 50% rock 70s tunes. I'd rather stay with Sirius, but its the music that matters.

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That device allows XM to be received through a Sirius head unit. It does NOT allow you to receive XM when what you have paid for is Sirius. XM is only going to send their signal to those who have paid for it.
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Old 11-30-2003, 08:34 PM   #43
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Amen to the posts on this thread! I recently subscribed to the Dog, having had XM for several months. After listening to Sirius' online streams, I came to the same conclusion that many of you did--Sirius' programming is far superior. There is one glaring exception......

It is absolutely guaranteed that XM's 70's channel is going to put a smile on my face several times an hour with some sort of kitschy song that I haven't heard in years. But that might be followed by a classic rock track, early 70's R&B, classic disco or the Carpenters. It's the music I grew up with, so most every song is probably going to make me remember something or someone. So, if I'm gonig to listen to a channel that is supposed to transport me back in time, why wouldn't I want to listen to it ALL, not just one genre of the music that was popular at that time.

It only took me a couple of hours of Totally 70's to figure out that it just doesn't cut it. I've also decided that, since I have the hardware already, it's worth $10 a month for me to keep XM as well JUST FOR THE 70'S CHANNEL!!! How pathetic is that??

By the way, I have no problem with Sirius' 80's or 60's channels (I fully support those who want their 90's channel back as well). While I realize that those on this board may represent a small minority of the total subscriber base, if this many people are unhappy about the programming on a channel it would seem to me that it's a good indication that far more subscribers than those on this board feel the same way.
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While I realize that those on this board may represent a small minority of the total subscriber base, if this many people are unhappy about the programming on a channel it would seem to me that it's a good indication that far more subscribers than those on this board feel the same way.
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b. You make very good points!
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Old 11-30-2003, 10:19 PM   #45
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This what I have been trying to say, if this 70s issue is causing such a fuss here on Siriusbackstage, I think it only reflects what the larger picture is, that most people want their 70s music to encompasss ALL of the 70s music on a stream that is suppose to be TOTALLY 70s, not just mainly classic rock hits!! Rename the stream then, call it 70s Classic Hits,because it IS NOT Totally 70s anymore. Sirius quit listening to the consultants who ruined regular radio and listen to your subscribers!! How many of your so called consultants even subscribe to Sirius? Should Sirius be programmed liked regular radio only without the commercials? (Is this an evil plot by FM radio to sabatoge satellite radio? Couldnt have thought of a better one if I had to!!)
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