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Old 02-19-2004, 02:27 PM   #46
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Just remember, Ron. Give it time (say, a month or two) and you'll find things about the XM 70s station that you don't like either. It always feels like the other guy is doing it better until you have both running at the same time and compare the two.
MCH,

Thanks for the reply.

You may have missed this, but most all of us who are participating
in this thread currently have XM Radio subscriptions and have been
comparing XM '70s Decade to Sirius Totally '70s.

This is the reason for the complaints. The other guy is doing it better.
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[You may have missed this, but most all of us who are participating
in this thread currently have XM Radio subscriptions and have been
comparing XM '70s Decade to Sirius Totally '70s.

This is the reason for the complaints. The other guy is doing it better.
Its a matter of opinion, not everyone is happy with the 70's channel on XM either. I personally don't think XM's 70's channel is better, but I admit I am not 70's fanatic and like someone else posted, I listen to many other genre's and streams. But in my opinion the 70's on XM plays too much obscure music, which you seem to think is good. I for one do not and it drives me right back to SIRIUS every single time I listen to it.

There is little doubt SIRIUS screwed the 70's stream up big time. They are going to fix this, just as they have many of the other streams we've taken issue with. I've seen others like yourself Ron that come in and help bust a move. I for one appreciate your efforts and will of course remain a SIRIUS subscriber to reap the benefits.

mch, I do agree with you about those lame constantly repeated segments that XM 70's play to try to bring you the feel of the 70's. Its neat to hear it the first time, but then its sort of like their commercials were, repeated over and over.

I am not 100% happy with SIRIUS 70's stream, but I'd have to say the same about XM's version too. Someone posted earlier will it be possible for any of these services to satisfy everyone 100% and the answer to that question is NO. If XM does it for you, then you've made the right choice by saying you will switch back to it soon. I would NEVER been happy with just XM, but that is me. Good Luck to you and thanks again for your great efforts.
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Well, today I had a pretty quite day at work. So I was able to spend a good seven hours listening to Totally 70s. I have to say, it sounded pretty good today. I heard a nice combination of pop, rock, etc. Boy, this stream is like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Its almost as if we have two people programming the stream. One who believes in tight playlists and a more classic rock lean and another person who believes in anything goes.
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Boy, this stream is like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Its almost as if we have two people programming the stream. One who believes in tight playlists and a more classic rock lean and another person who believes in anything goes.
joybandit, having payed much more attention to it here lately, I'd have to agree with you 100%. I AM wondering if there aren't two folks programming it. One does it one day and one does it the other or whatever. LOL
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I will also agree that the stream sounded better today, 2/19.

I could almost excuse the two Billy joel songs that played in
the same hour this afternoon.

Tomorrow? We may be back to classic rock again.

Ladies and Gents, do me a favor. Even if the stream sounds
like they are playing more pop, listen very carefully to the
rotation. How many times are you hearing the same songs being
played over and over again? How many times are you hearing
unique additions that you have yet to hear on the stream? Finally,
how many songs and artists can you name that aren't being
represented on this stream?

You sort of have to take a scientific approach to what is being
played here. Either you'll agree on my repetition theory or
you can count me out as a mad scientist with inane findings.

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I agree with you DAB, I listened to XM's 70's stream for about 70 minutes, and it wasn't holding my attention. I didn't like the mix of music and was getting bored with it quickly.

At this point Ron, you have made your choice and it's the right one for you. I don't think Sirius's Totally 70's will ever be what you want anyway. If 70's was my main or only focus like yours, I think I would need both services to get my fix.

Good luck, and see you around.
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Many Thanks, Manco.
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MCH,

Thanks for the reply.

You may have missed this, but most all of us who are participating
in this thread currently have XM Radio subscriptions and have been
comparing XM '70s Decade to Sirius Totally '70s.

This is the reason for the complaints. The other guy is doing it better.
I understand. What I am trying to say is once you go XM only and listen to the 70s station for a number of weeks, you'll find something you wish would be done better. And then it gets at you until it becomes something you don't like. And then you make a post on XMfan/411 talking about how it should be different, and the train is off and running again.

In other words, neither is perfection.
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MCH,

I understand what you are saying, but perhaps I should
give you some background that you may not know about....

I was an XM Subscriber for a year before coming to Sirius.
I hung out on their '70s Decades channel and absolutely
loved it. It was the greatest mix of '70s hits that anyone could
ever imagine. Furthermore, the channel actually made you feel
as if you were taken back to that decade.

I came to Sirius only because of the commercial pollution at
XM. As much as I hated the commercials, I loved the music
and the imagination that went into the stream. Upon arriving
at Sirius, I was horrified at what I found. Totally '70s
was an absolute mess. It was essentially a classic rock stream.

The rest is history that needs not repeating. 3 months later
Totally '70s has made substantial improvements, but
it is nowhere near XM radio's version.

I was stupid to think that I could change things here to exactly
what I felt the stream should be. I felt proud that there were
many others here who shared my vision, but in the end, we find
Sirius can only push the limits of this stream as far as they have.

Just want to say goodbye. The Alpine unit goes back in my
car this weekend.

I'm going to miss this everyone -- primarily people like Joybandit,
DoggieStyle, Dab, AZJoe, LAJ1225 and KYJ. I want to especially
thank TulaneJeff and Manco for tolerating me
these three months. I realize I put your board (and Sirius) in
turmoil with the bad press, but do realize that it was the only way
to get things to change this far. You guys run an exceptional board
here.

EVERYONE on this forum should be proud of the efforts
that YOU made in getting a better Totally '70s
stream. I hope one day our vision for this channel will happen.
If it does, please be sure to drop me a line and let me know.
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Ron, again, I wish you would reconsider. Keep both services.
I thought Totally 70s sounded great yesterday and today.
I was so shocked at what I was hearing today.
I heard "Make it with You," by Bread and a ton of other
pop, mellow classics.

Ron, you did so much work and it would be a shame to
hang up your equipment now. I know that XM is a great
service, but Sirius is getting better and I think it will
continue to progress as we get to summer.
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Ron, it's a shame to see you go, especially over just one channel. There is SO MUCH other musical choice on Sirius that just one channel. That is the real beauty of satellite radio. Have you really discovered the other channels and what they may offer, no matter how big of a 70's fan you are? Expanding your musical horizons is great!

It's up to you, but after everything Sirius did for you, including giving you a 3-hour radio show which was your dream, I would think you may have some more loyalty than that. Just MHO.
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Joybandit,

If what I am hearing is correct....

There is someone preventing the stream from
expanding to its intended potential -- at least in the
very immediate future.

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It's the '70s for me all the way. It's my passion. It's also,
obviously my problem.


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including giving you a 3-hour radio show which was your dream
The show was aired for 45-60 minutes with essential vocal
tracks missing. I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but add to
the fact that despite being promised a copy of the entire show
on CD, I have just learned that Sirius has erased most of it (if
not all). I'll never get to hear the show in its entirety. I'll never
have a copy for myself.

I feel a little let down by it all. I don't feel comfortable staying.

Trust me -- at this point, I'm sure Sirius will be happy to have
me off their hands.

Guys, let me go before I start sounding too pathetic here. All
of you take care!
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The show was aired for 45-60 minutes with essential vocal
tracks missing. I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but add to
the fact that despite being promised a copy of the entire show
on CD, I have just learned that Sirius has erased most of it (if
not all). I'll never get to hear the show in its entirety. I'll never
have a copy for myself.

I feel a little let down by it all. I don't feel comfortable staying.

Trust me -- at this point, I'm sure Sirius will be happy to have
me off their hands.

Guys, let me go before I start sounding too pathetic here. All
of you take care!
Ron, it was a real show. Sirius aired it twice. You jumped to an incorrect conclusion and went to bed upset because it didn't get underway quite when and as you expected. You were a home-theater guru living the dream of a lifetime, and you didn't think to pop in a videocassette just to be sure, and of course that's frustrating.

Your passion led you to make a couple of misjudgments, but it was your passion that got you into that studio in the first place. And it led, for a time to major changes in Totally 70s. Hope you'll remember the good things and not let your time with the Dog be tainted by a silly snafu.

XM's beautifully programmed, but its sound quality these days is fit only for background music. They're squeezing in too many channels, coasting on their subscriber numbers, compromising horribly in their way. You may be back...or you may set about improving the listening experience for XM'ers, which will be equally appreciated.

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If you go, Ron, good luck to you. But I think that you and I are fighting the same demon when it comes to certain artists in repitition (Paul McCartney and Billy Joel, in your case.) We need all the effort we can muster to drive this one into the station and get them to fix it. I don't think you've been a nag, an annoyance, a mad scientist, nor do I think you're being pathetic.

This is a young medium, and we can't let it become a wasteland of garbage.
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but its sound quality these days is fit only for background music. They're squeezing in too many channels, coasting on their subscriber numbers, compromising horribly in their way

That quote is unfair and untrue....


Ron- I am also a 70's fan so I understand your frustration. But I'm sure Sirius is reading these complaints and will eventually see the error in their ways. I don't know why it is taking them so long to see that their programming borders on FM like repetition. But they are a young service so I have hope.
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