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Old 10-16-2003, 10:29 PM   #16
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I have a big problem with the progamming on XM's Liquid Metal. They play practically the same 20 bands over and over and over and over again with little or no 80s and 90s metal ('cept Slayer) (little or no mercyful fate, venom, motorhead, metal church, coroner, king diamond, helloween to name a few)

I'd like to hear from Sirius subscribers on how they like the programming of Sirius' "Hard Attack" Like / dislike? Same rotation over and over?

I like Blues, and I am a talk / news listener, but down deep I'm a metal head and XMLM (LameMetal) often leaves me wishing I had my portable MP3 player back in the car and not XM. Just so I can hear some of the good old metal that I really like.

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That is the exact reason why I dumped my XM!!!!! SOSDD with sprinkling of 80s and 90s metal. Heck, when I sampled Hard Attack on the web, I was sold! I heard Motorhead, Overkill, Napalm Death, just a much better variety, new and old. Now, if I can only get my Streamer and get hooked up I will be smokin'
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Old 10-16-2003, 10:39 PM   #17
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Hey Jose! What's up it was awesome to to talk with you. It was awesome to see how much passion you have that genre of music. After talking to you and getting home I spent 6hrs listening to Hard Attack and even not a real metal head I could get into it.

XMLM never really thrilled me just bizarre shit that was annoying as hell.
That's because Hard Attack is not the in-your-face, underground shit that todays metal fans crave, live, and die by. Its ok, when you want some easy listening metal. Hard Attack is just all over the place. Maybe good for others like Tristan, but not me.

Jose, have you listened to XMLM?
Ziggy, got to disagree with you on XMLM - all they play is New Underground/Sh!t that nobody cares about but since XM is partly owned by Clear Channel, guess who is really pulling their strings?

XMLM's only draw is that they swear all the time - BFD. I would rather have better variety metal tunes than hearing bands that all sound the same.
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...and cuss words that also all sound the same!

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Old 10-17-2003, 07:34 PM   #19
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I said it before, and I'll say it again. Hard Attack is a blender that had XMLM, Squizz and Boneyard tossed into it and mixed on high for a few hours, then repeat.

XMLM is much heavier and what metal is today. The old shit is fine, but we have other channels for that. Going from Six Feet Under into Dio is not my idea of a well programmed metal channel.
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Oh, Ziggy, admit it.

If Sirius had the utmost of wonderful programming 24/7 on all 100 channels, you would still say XM was superior!

Which is okay, so long as people understand where you come from!
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Hey Ziggy, XMLM's problem is that they are trying too hard to be heavy. Did you participate in Redrum 24? I did and I was amazed that I heard every band I requested in my commute home (30 minutes), however, on a recent trip to Syracuse via the Thruway, listening to XMLM for 4 hours, never once did I hear anything but the SOS music they play all the freaking time. So it goes to show you that what the listerners want to hear and what they are playing are totally out of synch.

Frankly, with the Clear Channel connection I think there is something fishy going on and I am glad I dumped XM like a bad habit. In fact, after I got some positive feedback from Cleaver, I shot back a few direct questions and he blew me off - which only strengthed my position even more.

But, hey. if you are such an XM fan, then WTF are you doing here?

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Old 10-18-2003, 12:06 AM   #23
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Frankly, with the Clear Channel connection I think there is something fishy going on and I am glad I dumped XM like a bad habit. In fact, after I got some positive feedback from Cleaver, I shot back a few direct questions and he blew me off - which only strengthed my position even more.
Yes if you e-mail a XM DJ and say that Sirius does this and you enjoy it. Or if you have something negative to point out in a nice way. They blow you off or find something negative with what you just said that made Sirius look better. When I was at Sirius and shared my thoughts about Ethel vs Alt Nation with that Program Director he really listened and took the feedback in a positive way. I liked Alt Nation better anyways but I told him what Ethel did that I didn't like and I believe that will reflect into the programming. I have yet to see anything like this from XM in any way, shape or form.

XMLM can't speak about since I have given the channel about 14 seconds of listening time.
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Okay, I've only given Hard Attack about 7-10 minutes of listening tonight but I've done the same with Liquid Metal a few days ago (all in all, listening to three songs on each station.) So this is an inexperienced opinion, but a fair one.

I have to say that if based on these listens which channel I'd come back to first, I'd have to say Hard Attack. Everyone on XMLM shouts out unintelligable lyrics in a gutteral roar that sounds like they're taking their last breath on every bar. Hard Attack played metal. It was fast, it was loud, it was being shouted out, but it didn't sound like someone trying to exhale as loudly as they can while talking under their breath.
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YOu guys keep mentioning the CC involvement and point to how that affects XMLM, right?

Well, name a me a few bands that XMLM plays that are there as a direct result of this so called CC influence, or better yet, there are maybe just a couple of bands on XMLM that actually get some play on todays FM.

Where the hell do you guys come up with this crap?

If XM has so much CC involvement, Sirius has Sabo... why don't we talk about that one?
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Oh, and one more thing... if youlistened to either of these two channels for a few minutes only, you have no clue what is going on in the metal scene.

BeyEhmVey seems to know what's going on, but seems to enjoy the old school shit more, which is fine.
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I understand that. I'm not in "the metal scene" anyway. I'm just giving these channels a wack to see if I could get into them for any length of time to explore my horizons. Heck, I'm paying for them anyway.

Maybe I just got lucky on Hard Attack or something, I'll leave that possibility open, but I listened to Liquid Metal more last night when I got to bed and still every song I heard had some guy trying to do his best demonic impression by saying everything in a loud roar. Now, I know not all metal sounds like that. One of my co-workers was a metal fan years ago and I got quite an earful of the stuff.

I'll keep giving both a try when I pop past them I guess. Perhaps I'll eventually find a song sung by a guy who doesn't sound like he's posessed by Satan or something. Then again, maybe that's the new stuff that's popular right now or something?
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What up dudes...I love the real heavy shit too man, but it's my belief that THE BEST METAL STATION in the world needs to cover the entire METAL spectrum in order to fully get saturated and satisfied.

We play tons of underground, unsigned, independent metal 24/7. METAL is a train wreck type of music...going from Danzig to Anal Cunt to Poison The Well to Cynic to 36 Crazyfists and straight into the vocal metal God, Ronnie James Dio (hahahaha) is quite a cluster fuck if you ever asked me. But you know what, I got your attention. I caused a spastic reaction in your brain to say "what the fuck is that all about?!" But that's just how the music goes too man...up and down, through valleys of shit lined streets and hookers doing blow off bible sheets, and back to the foot of your bed, while your girlfriend rubs your feet...those feelings are all part of the music and should be played as so.

If it wasn't for the old, there wouldn't be a new. BLACK SABBATH is the reason we're all here man. Metal started w/ them and has never looked back.

I program the station for the TRUE METALHEAD. That's me, that's you guys, it's all of us. If I just focused on one type of metal, I would feel like I'm giving less to you, the subscribers. I know the music pleases and reaches a larger audience and in the end, we will stand loud and fukin' proud. We remain focused on the music and our delivery, than how mouthy we can be.

I have listened to our competetors channel, and keeping in mind that I'm super competitive, I know we cover our ass and do the best job possible. We have so many more bands come up who have never been to their studios. I just interviewed LAMB OF GOD last night LIVE on air. Tom Rock just did KILLSWITCH ENGAGE yesterday too. We got THE AGONY SCENE and EVERY TIME I DIE coming up on Wed. and Thurs. We have CATTLE DECAPITATION crusing up in a bit. SLAYER listens to HARD ATTACK more than anybody famous I know! They all love it! Most bands have never even heard or been to the other guys.

Oh and having the master tattoo artist PAUL BOOTH on board (oops, did I say that?) along w/ some pro-expert talent hosting their shifts...we simply dominate the market. Our live performances from metal bands is 100x more than what could ever do. On an industry note, we are so much more respected as far as my playlist goes and our spin counts and so on. HARD ATTACK reports to all the trades, something they do not.
They only report to one source. It's funny too, all the record company people listen and have SIRIUS just for HARD ATTACK! It's not just the fans, it's the bands and labels that fully support and love HARD ATTACK! That's why we're so dominant. And that my friends, is a key point. As we grow bigger, you'll see more of us everywhere! That's a promise! Did I say we're running a HUGE contest in the beginning part of next year in a HUGE metal mag? Opps...you'll freak when you hear what it is. More later....

On a side note...

Pam Anderson!!!! WHAT!!!....yesterday we were chillin' and she loves HARD ATTACK and apparently Mexican rock dudes w/ a shit load of tattoos too!!!!!

I needed a smoke after I talked to her. What a rush!

But anyways...yes we do go all over the place, but is done w/ fine detail and love for the whole genre of metal.

Chicks love HARD ATTACK too....and that's always a plus!

Well, too much now...thanks to all the guys that love and support HARD ATTACK. Thanks to you too dude (guy who doesn't like us), just for being a metalhead! I'm sure if you and I were at a LAMB OF GOD show, you would be cool to me and I would be cool to you. It's all about the music. That's what brings all of this forum activity together. Both stations are doing an excellent job promoting and spreading the metal word. We all contribute to the success of our music.

I've always been a positive dude, so I hope we both blow up so big that metal will just be seeping through the ears of listeners country wide! Regardless of what company it is.

Have a killer weekend!

Going to hang out w/ Paul Booth and SLAYER tonight in the city!!! Pinch me, I must be dreaming!

You can always email me personal suggestions, requests, shout outs, whatever....I love that shit!

Will talk about you on air.

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Until then, smoke some more metal today and stay sick!

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THANKS FOR LISTENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Now I ask you my children, is that guy cool or what?

Makes me happy to be a Sirius sub, and I don't even listen to his stream! (I am more of a Border/Movin' Easy/Fantasy Ballrooom/Slow Jamz kind of guy).

Sirius, for the rest of us!

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Old 10-18-2003, 05:53 PM   #30
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Jose is THE man!

Anything else is just plain noise. This guy is Metal. And then some.



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