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Old 09-14-2003, 02:21 PM   #16
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Here's the response I received:

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I think it helps to mix things up a bit. We were getting a lot of repetitions in our play lists with the old format. What we're trying to do is give people something different to listen to.
What good is hearing just the new stuff again and again if you can't remember the roots of where real rock cam from.

In radio, I guess they'd call it an active rock format. Old and new mixed together to give a wider variety of listening.

I tell ya, it makes my shifts a lot more fun. I love the oldies but goodies.

Feedback seems to be mixed. But one things' for sure...no more complaints about repetition.

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So instead of fixing the playlist by adding more music from the genre this station is supposed to represent...geez. This guy may enjoy it, but I was like 6 in the 80s and I dont get entertainment out of the 'novelty' of the idea. I dont enjoy 80s hair bands and if I did I would listen to the channel that is supposed to play that stuff.

But i'm just wasting my time here when I should be watching the 'lers trounce the chiefs.
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:35 PM   #17
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That is the lamest excuse I've ever seen for being clueless and more than slightly sef-indulgent.

These people need to watch M2 and/or Fuse and get a clue regarding the modern rock that they totally miss.

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Here's the response I received:

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I think it helps to mix things up a bit. We were getting a lot of repetitions in our play lists with the old format. What we're trying to do is give people something different to listen to.
What good is hearing just the new stuff again and again if you can't remember the roots of where real rock cam from.

In radio, I guess they'd call it an active rock format. Old and new mixed together to give a wider variety of listening.

I tell ya, it makes my shifts a lot more fun. I love the oldies but goodies.

Feedback seems to be mixed. But one things' for sure...no more complaints about repetition.

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So instead of fixing the playlist by adding more music from the genre this station is supposed to represent...geez. This guy may enjoy it, but I was like 6 in the 80s and I dont get entertainment out of the 'novelty' of the idea. I dont enjoy 80s hair bands and if I did I would listen to the channel that is supposed to play that stuff.

But i'm just wasting my time here when I should be watching the 'lers trounce the chiefs.
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:37 PM   #18
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It looks to me like they're going to combine a lot of rock stations to free up bandwidth for television.
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:40 PM   #19
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Who is the Stream Jockey that sent you the email about the format change?

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Why, you are:

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Well, it's kind of obvious that changes are coming down to Octane and Alt Nation. Someone on the inside told me a month or so ago that the new suits have other ideas for O, AN, LOC. I do not know what they are but I was kinda expecting something sooner or later.

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Old 09-14-2003, 03:05 PM   #21
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Well, it's kind of obvious that changes are coming down to Octane and Alt Nation. Someone on the inside told me a month or so ago that the new suits have other ideas for O, AN, LOC. I do not know what they are but I was kinda expecting something sooner or later.

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Old 09-14-2003, 04:15 PM   #22
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Following this unnamed hack's logic, there'd just be one station that plays everything from Jimmy Rodgers to Bob Wills to Johnny Otis to Rancid.

"What good is hearing just the new stuff again and again if you can't remember the roots of where real rock cam from."

If he thinks Led Zeppelin is the roots of rock and roll he really is doomed.
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Besides, Octane style music grew out of punk, much more than out of decadent '70s metal.
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Old 09-14-2003, 10:06 PM   #24
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All I'm saying is, Octane is what got me to go to Sirius. Everything I listen to, XM has, and for 4 dollars less a month. Like it or not, XM's commercials aren't THAT bad, and I could live with them. It's not like they play them back to back to back. XM has Squizz and Ethel, while Sirius has Octane. I chose sirius because Octane was that good, but if they start messing things up, I'll jump, and I'd hate to do it. Led Zeppelin is NOT modern rock! You can make the playlists less repetitive if you mix in more 90's music in the genre, or add more music to the stream. I still haven't heard Bizkit's new tune on Octane, but yet they try to tell us they can't find any more new music to play. XM even has better reception. Trust me, I LOVE, or used to love sirius, but if you're willing to accept this crap, just because they are still named Sirius, but yet not the same Sirius you subscribed to. There is something wrong when all of these people who used to love sirius, are talking about switching to XM. You may not agree with the whole "We'll bail" aspect, but when this many people are talking about leaving, you seriously have to question if something is going wrong. Hell, The Pulse was play 10,000 Maniacs, and today Octane played Pantera and Black Sabbath back to back, those aren't even in the genre nor having been modern (in Sabbath's case.) I'm just pissed I shelled out this much for equipment, and now I may have to bail because Sirius can't run a business.
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I can't comment on the changes as I stick to pop drivel, urban and decades, but be sure to send in feedback...good and bad.

The Trend was a mess when they flipped to a 'rock classics married with the hits' format. It's now one of the gems.

We did see this coming when the Rock PD was ousted. Cha-Cha-Changes for the rock side, let's see how it unfolds.

Keep the dialog going, both here and via the Feedback form at Sirius.com.

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Subroc its a matter of ones individual opinion. Since I signed on to SIRIUS there have been two major shifts in the streams and there were some that I didn't particularly agree with or even like. But as time has gone on they tweaked other streams to provide for what they took away. This is just the nature of the beast, those of us that have been around awhile understand this. SIRIUS can and has made changes to streams and even the whole stream line up. If saving $3.00 because Octane isn't doing it for you anymore is important to you, then you've got to do what you've got to do. I didn't make my investment into SIRIUS and the equipment to pull out because of one stream. But that is just me, there is still much variety for me to choose from on SIRIUS to just toss my investment in equipment aside. If you think XM is all that a bag of chips, you are going to be in for a surprise. There are many good and bad things on both services. You can have those 6 minutes of commercials that you say are no big deal. 10 cents a day not to have them, to me is absolutely worth it. I found that working with others on this forum and sending in email, making calls and writing letters has helped us often get what we want. Its not always quickly, but in time it does happen. However, you don't sound to much like you want to bother with that, but maybe I am wrong. I'd hate to see you go....

I understand your complaint with Octane and I even agree with you on it. But where you and I disagree is that you'll just chunk in the towel over one single stream. I got too much in this thing to do that besides, I had XM and I know what is all about already, so you'll have to find out for yourself.
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I'm not alone in this anger though, the board is riddled with people who are angry, and I'm not Anti-Sirius either. Do a search of my posts, you'll see I was quite pro-sirius until all of this stream nonsense happened. It's happening accross the board, The Pulse, Octane, Alt Nation, all of these streams are suffering from poor programming, all in the name of "Less repeats." Instead of playing music that doesn't fit, Sirius should look into lengthening the catalog for the stream. I don't feel that XM is all that and a bag of chips, but rather when it comes to keeping streams true to their catagories, as of right now, XM is destroying Sirius in that department. I just don't see how anyone could say "We should add a 70's Black Sabbath song to our Modern Rock stream." DAB, I know you're a huge Sirius fan, as was I, and still mostly am, but you have to admit, that is unacceptable. If XM can be too eclectic in those same stream categories on their service (and they have two stations for it), it has to be possible for Sirius to break up the repetition without breaking the stream genre. I'd rather them get a bit on the eclectic side, than play music that doesn't fit in the genre, maybe I'll like some of the more eclectic tunes they'll play, because they are in the same genre. Sirius can do this, if they want, but when they do this to all their streams, it makes me fear that they do not want to.
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Not to scare anyone but this small change you have noticed on Octane over the past couple of days is only the start of what they have planned. I have no idea what their plan is but there is a plan and this is why many people were let go a month or two ago.

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I do think Rock is Sirius' weakest genre. Urban, Pop, Dance and Decades (with the exception of the 90s) are very strong.

The Pulse is not bad for what it is, I don't see too many complaints about the way they present the Hot AC format. The discrepancy is that we also need a true 90s stream.

I say give them time to unfold the new direction for Left of Center, Alt Nation and Octane. They may surprise everyone, or not.

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Blink is right, I think this is only the beginning....

Subroc, I know you are NOT anti-SIRIUS, I've read probably all of your post, cause I don't miss many.

I have said it many times too, that there is much music in each of the genre's so that we can have a deeper play list without repeats. This thing of playing stuff outside the genre is just crazy. I have sent email telling them so too. I don't know what they are doing and I am not sure they do either. But I wish they would make some sort of annoucement letting us know. However, it appears they plan to make the changes slowly over time as to try to piss off the least amount of people. Your anger and frustation is totally justified. But understand that my point is that I invested too much to just jump ship. I mean I have the funds to get XM if I wanted it. But right now overall I am pretty happy with SIRIUS. I may still get XM later. I just don't understand giving up SIRIUS for one stream, but then I don't just listen to one stream the majority of time. Perhaps you do and this is why this gets to you so much.

I remember poor old AZJoe, he had a favorite stream. I can't remember the name of it now, but SIRIUS just dropped it in the last major changes. He was crushed and he got on a tear. We still don't have it back, but they did move some of that music to Heart and Soul. So he can tell you that SIRIUS make changes sometimes that cuts to the bone.

I hope you try to stick it out.... But I can understand too if you decide that XM may work better for you. I don't have anything against XM they would do good to have you.
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