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Old 10-23-2005, 09:47 PM   #211
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I think any time that Sirius deletes a genre that XM keeps, it creates a weakness in Sirius' lineup.
I agree with that, but we didn't have new age and now we do, so that filled a gap. It seems to be a give and take at this point with the limited bandwidth. But in my opinon they most certainly could have given up one or even two ROCK channels to keep Folktown. It was clearly a dumb move.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:12 AM   #212
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But in my opinon they most certainly could have given up one or even two ROCK channels to keep Folktown. It was clearly a dumb move.
I'm a rock fan, so I might be biased, but I'm not sure how wise of a move it would have been to give up one or two rock stations. There must be a reason why Sirius offers so many rock stations... they must be relatively popular and fit their target demographic. Right now, Sirius has a marketing advantage over XM when it comes to classic rock. XM has equivalents (at least at a first glance) to Hair Nation, Classic Vinyl, and The Vault. But they don't have a classic hard rock (Buzzsaw) or differentiated classic rock (separated Vinyl/Rewind) stations. If rock fans are major purchasers of satellite radio, which seems to be true based on both Sirius's and XM's number of rock stations, it would seem to make sense that Sirius would want to differentiate themselves in the rock category instead of keeping-par with XM in the folk category. Maybe another stream could have been removed elsewhere to keep Folktown around, but messing with a rock station can turn out to be a bad marketing move.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:25 AM   #213
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I'm a rock fan, so I might be biased, but I'm not sure how wise of a move it would have been to give up one or two rock stations. There must be a reason why Sirius offers so many rock stations... they must be relatively popular and fit their target demographic. Right now, Sirius has a marketing advantage over XM when it comes to classic rock. XM has equivalents (at least at a first glance) to Hair Nation, Classic Vinyl, and The Vault. But they don't have a classic hard rock (Buzzsaw) or differentiated classic rock (separated Vinyl/Rewind) stations. If rock fans are major purchasers of satellite radio, which seems to be true based on both Sirius's and XM's number of rock stations, it would seem to make sense that Sirius would want to differentiate themselves in the rock category instead of keeping-par with XM in the folk category. Maybe another stream could have been removed elsewhere to keep Folktown around, but messing with a rock station can turn out to be a bad marketing move.
I agree, Sirius has a strong advantage on XM in the Rock genre. If they were to replace one of those channels with Folktown I would view it as diminishing the entire rock portfolio, not necessarily one single channel.

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I hear some things on Coffehouse that are good, so it's growing on me....but man, pulling Folktown....and right after I signed up for a lifetime membership.........unreal.....friggin unreal...
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I hear some things on Coffehouse that are good, so it's growing on me....but man, pulling Folktown....and right after I signed up for a lifetime membership.........unreal.....friggin unreal...
Look at it this way, soundscapes (new age) came back after much complaining on these boards and to SIRIUS, so there's hope for Folktown in the not too distant future.

I'm not sure how long it took for soundscapes/spa to return, I'll deffer to some of the veterans for that one.

I do like Coffeehouse though.
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I hear some things on Coffehouse that are good, so it's growing on me....but man, pulling Folktown....and right after I signed up for a lifetime membership.........unreal.....friggin unreal...
The Coffeehouse has gotten SLIGHTLY better since it stole Folktown, but the repeats are horrendous. They should just name it the IndigoGirl Stream.

Folktown will be back, just you wait and see. Sirius cannot thrive without musical diversity, afterall, that's what makes satellite radio so unique.

And what about The Globe ? Isn't the Stones tour over ?
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I'm not sure how long it took for soundscapes/spa to return, I'll deffer to some of the veterans for that one.
1 year and 7 months roughly.
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1 year and 7 months roughly.
Ouch, they gonna loose many subsiribers if it takes that long for Folk to return to Sirius. XM will whoop their butt ! (don't wanna see that happen)
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Agree that the Coffeehouse plays way too many Indigo Girl tunes and lately Billy Holliday.

Had to laugh about the Stones question where the poster was wondering if their tour was over yet The Rolling Stones have been on tour for more than 40 years. Hopefully Sirius will pull the plug in the next 40. Won't be long B4 their "Steel Wheels" will be on wheel chairs!

Single artist channels in general are not my cup of tea especially over a period of several months. How about a single channel that focuses on one particular artist for a couple of days or maybe a week? I could stand a couple day focus on say, Lynrd Skynrd, Credence or ? But, the Boss and Stones for months at a time? Sorry, that is a bit much I would think for even the most dedicated fan of either artist/group.
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Agree that the Coffeehouse plays way too many Indigo Girl tunes and lately Billy Holliday.

Had to laugh about the Stones question where the poster was wondering if their tour was over yet The Rolling Stones have been on tour for more than 40 years. Hopefully Sirius will pull the plug in the next 40. Won't be long B4 their "Steel Wheels" will be on wheel chairs!

Single artist channels in general are not my cup of tea especially over a period of several months. How about a single channel that focuses on one particular artist for a couple of days or maybe a week? I could stand a couple day focus on say, Lynrd Skynrd, Credence or ? But, the Boss and Stones for months at a time? Sorry, that is a bit much I would think for even the most dedicated fan of either artist/group.
I'm in complete agreement about the excessive channel dedication. Like you said, rotating bands/groups though a single stream is a much better idea. Sirius is choking bandwidth with dedicated Stones, Stringbean, Elvis and soon to be the IndigoGirls, Dylan, Carpenters, Hellen Reddy, Chicago,
Hendrix, Monkees..etc
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Nothing against Folktown, or folk music generally, but Sirius isn't going to lose a material number of subscribers due to the absence of that genre.
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Nothing against Folktown, or folk music generally, but Sirius isn't going to lose a material number of subscribers due to the absence of that genre.
Hey, you're finally right about something!

Congrats!
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Nothing against Folktown, or folk music generally, but Sirius isn't going to lose a material number of subscribers due to the absence of that genre.
Hey, you're finally right about something!

Congrats!
And you're the authority on what's right ?
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How many folk streams do you see on FM that are commercially supported?

Case closed. Folk (whether you like it or not) is a niche format. Public or satellite radio is usually the path for a station that plays folk, or any othe niche format, I could count on two hands how many 'decades' channels you found on FM 5-10 years ago, now you're lucky to find one or two at least in this market.
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How many folk streams do you see on FM that are commercially supported?

Case closed. Folk (whether you like it or not) is a niche format. Public or satellite radio is usually the path for a station that plays folk, or any othe niche format, I could count on two hands how many 'decades' channels you found on FM 5-10 years ago, now you're lucky to find one or two at least in this market.
But I think you are missing the point here. This is not FM or AM radio, it's Satellite Radio. Satellite should not copy what FM & AM are doing. Most people will compare everything to what they are use to. Satellite is a new form of radio that we have no idea of what that should look like or sound like. Sirius needs to make sure that it 's different from FM and I'm not so sure that they are doing that.
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