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Old 10-05-2005, 01:45 PM   #31
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If Rock is defined as being Anti-establishment, I wonder how many Rock Songs should be thrown off of the Rock Channels that don't meet that narrow definition? Rock isn't a message, it's a style of music. Sure many of the messages in rock are anti-establishment, but not all Rock songs are anti-establishment.
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If revolution stops playing christian music and just plays rock then it can be a rock station, until then its a christian station.
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If revolution stops playing christian music and just plays rock then it can be a rock station, until then its a christian station.
But it's good enough rock that in many folks opinion it COULD be in the Rock Category a point I know you just can't stand hearing, but its true. END of the story!
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I agree with the people saying that it is a Christian music channel. No matter how good the music maybe the fact is the music is 100% Christian, and I think that will always be the issue when it comes to this channel.

Personally I think people should just enjoy what they like.
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The King of Rock n Roll, Elvis Presley, was a Christian. He loved and was influenced by Gospel music. He recorded Gospel albums. Elvis is a member of the Gospel Music Hall of Fame.

Elvis would undoubtedly be quite surprised to hear somebody claim that Christian Rock can't be classified as Rock.

And what law of nature or man says that Rock is or has to be anti-establishment? Elvis Presley was drafted by the U.S. Army near the height of his fame in 1958. He went without a whimper, and served his time honorably.

That's the same Elvis who later approached the FBI and the Nixon Administration, asking what he could do to help counter the influence of Rock groups like the Beatles, who he felt were turning kids on to illegal drugs and other negative influences.

Whether you agree or disagree with what he did isn't relevant in this discussion. But the hard fact is, the King of Rock n Roll certainly was NOT anti-establishment.
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But he never meant shit to me you see
Straight up racist that sucker was
Simple and plain
Mother fuck him and John Wayne

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BTW what is christian about Burnin' Love or Jail house rock ?

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That's the same Elvis who later approached the FBI and the Nixon Administration, asking what he could do to help counter the influence of Rock groups like the Beatles, who he felt were turning kids on to illegal drugs and other negative influences.
And yet he died of an overdose while taking a crap.
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BTW what is christian about Burnin' Love or Jail house rock ?
Nothing, just like a lot of bands on Revolution and alot of people trying to just get by. Elvis dealt with life through drugs in his later bloated years. Shitty (pun) way to go eh? Rock is about passion directed at hate, love or otherwise. Especially ex girlfriends and presidents. Maybe the Elvis Channel belongs in Christian/Country.
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Elvis was a hero to most
But he never meant shit to me you see
Straight up racist that sucker was
Simple and plain
Mother fuck him and John Wayne

BTW what is christian about Burnin' Love or Jail house rock ?

And yet he died of an overdose while taking a crap.
You continue to make yourself look even more foolish. Elvis was no racist. However, you are an anti-Christian bigot.

Here are some of the lyrics from the Elvis song "If I Can Dream":

If I Can Dream

(Sung by Elvis Presley, words & music by Brown)

There must be lights burning brighter somewhere
Got to be birds flying higher in a sky more blue
If I can dream of a better land
Where all my brothers walk hand in hand
Tell me why, oh why, oh why can't my dream come true...
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Elvis sang "In the Ghetto", which was a plea for Americans not to be apathetic toward the less fortunate raised in ghettos. Certainly nothing a racist would sing:

In the Ghetto

(Sung by Elvis Presley, words & music by Scott Davis)

As the snow flies
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin'
A poor little baby child is born
In the ghetto
And his mama cries
'cause if there's one thing that she don't need
it's another hungry mouth to feed
In the ghetto

People, don't you understand
the child needs a helping hand
or he'll grow to be an angry young man some day
Take a look at you and me,
are we too blind to see,
do we simply turn our heads
and look the other way...
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BTW what is christian about Burnin' Love or Jail house rock?
Nothing.

There's no law or rule that says a Christian like Elvis can't sing secular Rock songs, except maybe in your own mind.

Christians have sung many thousands of secular songs during the Rock era. Only a few people like yourself have a problem with it.
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And yet he died of an overdose while taking a crap.
Elvis's drug problem was with legal prescription amphetamines, not illegal drugs.

He didn't get hooked on them while looking for a cheap thrill, and he didn't buy them illegally. He didn't make public knowledge of it, nor did he suggest to teens or anybody else that it was a "cool" thing to do.

It's a well known fact among Elvis buffs and historians, that Elvis first started taking them while he was in the Army in Germany. One of his superiors suggested he start taking them to help him stay awake on guard duty. He did, and gradually became hooked.

Like any drug problem, it escalated over the years, and contributed to his untimely death.
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Elvis was a hero to most
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Straight up racist that sucker was
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Mother fuck him and John Wayne

BTW what is christian about Burnin' Love or Jail house rock ?

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That's the same Elvis who later approached the FBI and the Nixon Administration, asking what he could do to help counter the influence of Rock groups like the Beatles, who he felt were turning kids on to illegal drugs and other negative influences.
And yet he died of an overdose while taking a crap.
So you say Mother Fuck two of the most beloved entertainers of all time. You continue to do whatever you can to stir the pot. I guess there is little doubt what kind of person you want us to think you are.
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BTW what is christian about Burnin' Love or Jail house rock?
Nothing.

There's no law or rule that says a Christian like Elvis can't sing secular Rock songs, except maybe in your own mind.

Christians have sung many thousands of secular songs during the Rock era. Only a few people like yourself have a problem with it.
I have never heard Elvis sing a christian rock song, not that ever really listened to a lot of Elvis. Most overated person in the history of rock and roll. All style and no substance.
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All style and no substance.
In regards to the no substance part, you and he have a lot in common. OH I am not here to stir the pot just look at my post. The hell you aren't, your true colors are showing loud and clear. Just a shit stir looking for attention.
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Wow, very "spirited" debate here

On the original topic, as another non-Christian, I agree that the music is good enough to warrant being in the "rock" category. Wasn't that the original point anyway? It wasn't a plea or request to move it to the rock category, just a statement that the music is rocking enough to hold it's own in the rock category.

I will say that I think Revolution is much harder that Octane 90% of the time. Like others, when an extremely preachy song comes on I will usually change the channel. It's not because I'm offended, it's just not my belief so I don't get mad about it.

The good news is that most of these bands have realized that they can appeal to a broader audience by NOT being overtly religious. I think whoever programs the channel does a great job so far because Christians and non-Christians alike seem to agree the music rocks.
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