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Old 06-10-2006, 11:24 AM   #1
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I've had Sirius for a little over two years now, and I'm considering canceling my subscription since I rarely listen to it. My musical tastes have changed considerably in the two years I've had it and Sirius's programming seems increasingly limited.

Here is a list of bands I frequently listen to.

Metallica
Judas Priest
Dream Theater
Megadeth
Black Sabbath
Queensryche
Fates Warning
The Gathering
Iron Maiden
Mercyful Fate
Savatage
In Flames (pre-Clayman)
Dark Tranquillity
At the Gates
Carcass
Scorpions
Motorhead
Rush
Tool

Simply put, not enough music by these bands is played on Sirius. Looking at song seek, a grand total of 5 Dream Theater songs have been played on Sirius. This is a joke, especially given DT's robust catalogue. Prog metal in general seems neglected on Sirius. Last september I remember seeing a thread on here saying there was supposed to be a prog metal hour on Hard Attack. I was very excited when I read that, but 9 months later it has never materialized.

Another problem I have is the lack of variety of songs among bands I like that are played. Judas Priest is a perfect example of this. They've got a huge catalogue loaded with classics, yet BuzzSaw and HairNation seem to think their career begins and ends with "Breaking the Law" and "You've Got Another Thing Comin'". Very little of their 70's output, the band's golden age (Sad Wings of Destiny through Unleashed in the East) is played. Hard Attack seems to do a better job of this, but they could still be better. Where is "Beyond the Realms of Death?" "Exciter"? "Dissident Aggressor"? "Running Wild"? "Tyrant"? "Delivering the Goods"? Those are just a few of the many songs they could be playing. I've sent them requests, but they've been ignored, which is another big problem I have with Sirius.

The way the channels are defined also leaves something to be desired. Hard Attack is stretched pretty thin between playing classic metal, thrash, death, black, nu-metal and metalcore/hardcore. I don't like hearing classic Metallica or Megadeth and then Slipknot or Lamb of God. I understand that Sirius has a limited amount of bandwidth, and tries to appeal to a wide audience, but the musical styles don't fit together particularly well. I think BuzzSaw could play more classic metal and less of the classic rock that's played on Vinyl and Rewind, but as I said before, they seem to only play the "hits" by bands like Maiden and Priest. The "British Steel" show on friday afternoons easily could've been an hour show, not just 3 songs by classic metal bands.

Whenever I turn on Sirius, I usually end up flipping through channels, maybe finding a song I like (usually a song I've heard many times), listening to it, then turning it off because there is nothing on that I want to hear. It's certainly better than FM, but I'm better off just listening to my iPod. I tried the free online trial of XM a few months ago, and they seem to have more variety, but I don't like the fact that they can't seem to keep all their rock channels (last year they axed Liquid Metal, now they axed their prog channel). They also have their formatting problems. The Bone Yard tries to cover too many different formats, from hair metal to thrash to classic metal. Ultimately, I feel satellite radio is a bit of a disappointment and a wasted opportunity, at least for me, and I don't think I'm getting my money's worth out of it.
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Old 06-10-2006, 11:31 AM   #2
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Sounds like an ipod is what you need.
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Sounds like an ipod is what you need.
I already have one, and that's what I listen to 90% of the time. Satellite Radio seems like it could be a good way for me to discover new bands, but Sirius isn't serving that purpose at all.
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:26 PM   #4
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I already have one, and that's what I listen to 90% of the time. Satellite Radio seems like it could be a good way for me to discover new bands, but Sirius isn't serving that purpose at all.
Well, looks like you've answered your own question then.
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I'm not gonna say what you should or should not do, but you already sound like you're intent on getting rid of it. Unfortunately, there's a lot of people that have the same view about Sirius' song selection. If I look for Ministry stuff, it's usually NWO, Just One Fix, or Senor Peligro, unless I include the stuff on First Wave, but that stuff is more Depeche Mode than anything (OK, I do have a song or two from the old stuff programmed). Ditto Black Flag. There's more songs out there than Rise Above and TV Party. I've tried writing DJs and programming directors, and although a few DJs responded, nothing has really changed. Yes, it does sound like I'm saying their song selection does suck, because that is exactly what I'm saying. However, when my antenna went out in my work car and I was forced to go 2 weeks without a replacement, I was miserable. Thank god ESPN Radio, one of the things I listen to on Sirius from time to time), was available. I must have driven up I-76, I-83, and I-81 trying to find ONE decent station and couldn't do it.

I guess what I'm getting at is even for as much as I bitch, moan, and complain about their song selection, it is still infinitely better than terrestrial radio. Stations like Boombox, Faction (even when they play shit like Hawthorne Heights), and Hard Attack make it worth my monthly subscription.



and that's all I have to say about that
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I have both Xm and Sirius and I think you should look at Xm for liquid metal for the metal it sounds like that station is suited more to your standards than hard attack. Like I say sirius more hit based xm more deep track based. Love both but if you love talk its sirius you stay with.
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Old 06-12-2006, 06:05 PM   #7
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If you only like a few bands then perhaps sat isn't the way to go. IF you like a large variety say Jazz on one hand and Death Metal on the other, nothing beats the price and convenience of satrad.
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Another thought (but it might involve picking up a new receiver)... Look into one of the receivers that lets you store your favorite artists (as opposed to just a specific song). I recently picked up a Starmate Replay and programmed some of my favorite artists in. In a short amount of time, I realized that they were playing these artists across more channels than the few that I originally listened to.

Good luck in whatever you choose!
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If I were you, I would just keep Sirius and be patient with them. They are increasing their catalog of bands and playing more songs and they are still way better then regular radio. Just keep emailing Sirius every couple of months and hopefully they will listen.
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Perhaps you should exercise your rights to use the request line.
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I would definitely be interested to know how often you make requests SadWing. I know they definitely take request into account. Once I found that out, I started requesting the shit out of some things that I hadn't heard in months and a good hunk of it got played.
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Perhaps you should exercise your rights to use the request line.
I've done that many times and the songs haven't been played. I'll admit I haven't done it recently. When I email them I just get an automated message saying "your request has been received" or something similar.
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Have made numerous requests..via phone and email. Never got to hear them. IMO the request lines are a joke.
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You have Sirius and an iPod...I recommend getting XM if you can afford it. Between the three you should be able to hear more songs by your fav. artists.

Personally, I have all three and cannot be more pleased with each service and my iPod.
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I've done that many times and the songs haven't been played. I'll admit I haven't done it recently. When I email them I just get an automated message saying "your request has been received" or something similar.
You should follow up an e-mail request with a phone request cause they don't know that it came from the same person so it seems like 2 people requested it.

Also, if you talk about songs you wanna hear enough on here, you might get some requests heard. A few of the DJ's lurk around here and definitely take notice sometimes when you are really hurtin' to hear a song.
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