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Old 01-28-2006, 06:43 PM   #1
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I just spoke to Sirius Technical support for the S50, and they are telling me that this radio that I bought cannot be used at all on a mac. Is this really true? I had heard so many good things about the radio, that I ordered the radio directly from Sirius, and did not discover that the software was useless for my Apple computer. I wonder if Sirius realizes that iPods and Apple are taking over the world, and they need to get a clue! If anyone on a Mac uses the S50 at all, could you let me know? Or should I just return the Windows based radio?

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Old 01-29-2006, 12:05 AM   #2
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There is currently no support for Mac. While Apple has sold a lot of IPOD and corners that market. They don't even come close in the PC market, which is why MOST companies don't bother to support the Mac OS. Now they have Mac Intel, which has totally brought things back to square one with support, because what software there was that works on the current OS, won't work under the Mac Intel OS version.

I do think SIRIUS should support Mac, but lets face it with its small market share doing it initially just wasn't that important.
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But MAC's can read the S50. You just can't use the MSS software (i.e. make playlists or add MP3s). You can still update the firmware and channel logos/sounds using a mac. Just connect it to you computer and the Mac reads it as a flash drive.
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But MAC's can read the S50. You just can't use the MSS software (i.e. make playlists or add MP3s). You can still update the firmware and channel logos/sounds using a mac. Just connect it to you computer and the Mac reads it as a flash drive.
Yes this is true, but we have had a few people that have for the most part bricked their S50 doing this. Now rather this is because of user error or not I can't say, but I am just reporting what has been reported to me. Usually what happens is the unit will continue to say it is connected no matter what they do. I think many using the Mac assume just hauling the flash memory to the trash bin is the way to unmount it, but that doesn't always work on the S50 and then you are stuck with this issue and if you unplug and plug it back in the Mac no longer recognizes it as flash memory. Anyone doing this does so at their own risk and the bottom line is that SIRIUS does not support the Mac OS at this time.
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There is currently no support for Mac. While Apple has sold a lot of IPOD and corners that market. They don't even come close in the PC market, which is why MOST companies don't bother to support the Mac OS. Now they have Mac Intel, which has totally brought things back to square one with support, because what software there was that works on the current OS, won't work under the Mac Intel OS version.

I do think SIRIUS should support Mac, but lets face it with its small market share doing it initially just wasn't that important.

Wow...its been a long time since I've heard anything so totally factually incorrect. Such a comment brings me back to the days of "Hey...didn't Microsoft buy Apple?" back in the mid '90s.

There's no such thing as the "Mac Intel OS Version". Its the same Mac OS. Applications written in "Universal Binary" will run native on the Intel chips. Applications written in the older PowerPC code will run in a transparent emulation called Rosetta. The Intel core means nothing...I repeat, NOTHING...for who is choosing to support the Mac platform. Do not expect Sirius to suddenly consider the Mac simply because there's a different core. Thats absurd.

They simply didn't want to bother writing the app. Period. Maybe because they couldn't figure out how to lock the audio down and prevent fair use, the way they have in Windows.

Apple doesn't even come close in the PC Market? What on earth is that based on? Apple has the portable market cornered. Not just on the Mac. If what you're saying is true, then the hundreds of people I see on the sidewalks every day with iPods are all Mac users? Um...no.

And sorry folks, but this needs to be said... the S50 is the most laughably bad product ever to hit the streets. I'd go so far as to call it shamefully, staggeringly bad.

jacobsonsm, here's what you do... take back your S50. You got ripped off. Take that same amount of money, and buy a 30GB iPod. Then go home, and download a $30 program called AudioHijack. Load that app on your Mac, log in to Sirius on the web, and use AudioHijack to record all the audio you want...hours and hours and days of it. Why? Because your iPod is 30 times the size of the S50, and can handle audio longer than 2 hours at a time.

Then, load that audio onto your iPod. Or burn a CD. Or listen on your computer. Or give it to a friend. Or add it as a part of a movie. Or make it the background to a DVD...or any of all the other things you can do with unrestricted audio. You know...all the things you can't do with your S50.

While you're at it, load the latest episode of Lost onto your iPod too, and thank your lucky stars you're not still using an S50.

Shame on Sirius for this pathetic little device.
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Wow, heaven forbid anyone talk negative about Apple right bvloyster? They are god after all.

Note: I think Apple's products are very nice, but come on.
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Wow, heaven forbid anyone talk negative about Apple right bvloyster? They are god after all.

Note: I think Apple's products are very nice, but come on.

No, Apple isn't god. Far from. Actually, some of thier products have been unforgivable. I love criticizing Apple. Its one of my favorite hobbies. If the talk is going to be negative, though, the least it should be is true.

But even in thier imperfection, they'd never release something like the S50. I can't even imagine what the development meetings must have been like.

"So hang on...you mean for over $300, it won't actually play live radio, it won't record for longer than 2 hours at a time, and at least initially, you'll only be able to use it in the car? Plus, its initial firmware will randomly delete your music? Thats awesome! Release it right now! Hey...is there any way we can get it to kick its user in the balls while we're at it?"
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I do agree that Apple would NEVER release an iPod that has the amount of bugs that the S50 does.

After I said you were over-defending Apple I'm gonna have to defend the S50 on the last part...

1. Yea, I wish it had live radio on the go, but would the reception be good? In alot of places probably not.

2. Even if it could record 4 hours at a time I wouldn't do it, unless they made it where the S50 would turn back on from where you left off. Plus 4 hours would take along time to FF (which can also be fixed).

3. I'm using it in my house as we speak.

4. I've never had it delete my music.
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Has anybody with VirtualPC running on their mac tried getting the My Sirius Studio package to work?
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I have tried the latest version of Virtual PC running on Mac OS 10.3.9 and it did not work. I was using Windoze XP home edition on VPC. The s50 won't ever properly mount. I always got errors saying the device did not have a proper drive image. The OS saw it as a Sirius s50 but it would never mount in MSS. I think it has something to do with the drivers for the flash drive. I ended up using my wife's IBM Thinkpad to configure and update my s50. If anyone is successful with VPC, let us know.
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I have tried the latest version of Virtual PC running on Mac OS 10.3.9 and it did not work. I was using Windoze XP home edition on VPC. The s50 won't ever properly mount. I always got errors saying the device did not have a proper drive image. The OS saw it as a Sirius s50 but it would never mount in MSS. I think it has something to do with the drivers for the flash drive. I ended up using my wife's IBM Thinkpad to configure and update my s50. If anyone is successful with VPC, let us know.
Check out worktheweb's post in this thread:

http://www.siriusbackstage.com/forum...ic.php?t=37213
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I use the sirius studio software with virtual pc on my iMac (10.4.4) and it works well, but very slow. I've updated fiirmware, transferred mp3's, etc. I've heard people say that their S50 will show up as a flash drive on their desktop, but mine never has. it shows up in system profiler as Sirius S50, but it doesn't mount. Virtual PC is decent until they develop the software for the Mac. I've already complained in a few e-mails to them, maybe they'll listen.
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What version of VPC are you using? I was wondering if 10.4 would make a difference. Yes, my s50 would mount on my mac desktop. I could see the contents of the drive but by mounting it OSX dumped ".DS_store files on the drive etc...
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I'm using VPC 7.0. You're right, maybe 10.4 would help. What exactly happens when you try to run the studio software with your version? Does it fail to install or just not detect the S50?
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I'm betting it is how 10.3.9 handles the flash drive vs. 10.4. It mounts in VPC and on my desktop no matter what I do. I always have to capture the device manually each time I plug it in using the VPC menu for that. MSS runs great but when I plug in the s50 it never connects. I get a message that the s50 does not have a valid WM5 (I've gone blank on the kind of formatting on the flash drive) partition and asks me if I want to install one. I say yes and nothing ever happens. Windows sees the device as an s50 and MSS tries to connect but that one piece of the puzzle never falls into place. I read some on the web about mounting similar devices in VPC but it may take 10.4 to make it work. I'd take slow over my wife's thinkpad any day! I installed and reinstalled MSS and I just never got it working. Thanks for the info. I should be upgrading to Tiger soon so I'll try it again. I have a Quad here at the office running 10.4 and VPC 7 but I of course left my USB cable at home today! I didn't even think of trying it here since it didn't work on my laptop. I should have given it a whirl. Maybe tomorrow. I'll post if I learn anything.
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