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Old 08-18-2005, 01:27 PM   #1
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Just curious what everyone thinks about the NHL now being on OLN? I really enjoyed ESPN's coverage and I hope that OLN will raise the bar with really cool things to catch viewers and bring them in. Looking forward to what they have to offer, I think they said their first game was Rangers/Flyers. Should be a good one.
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Old 08-18-2005, 01:50 PM   #2
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I expect that Comcast, who runs OLN, will make the NHL experience better than the half-ass effort ESPN put into it. One reason is because Comcast owns part of the Philadelphia Flyers. I also expect Comcast to add HD to OLN...
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If they can convince my cable company to carry INHD them I'm happy. From what I've heard, thats where the HD games are going to go. Can anyone here comment on how Comcast "does" hockey? What is the pre-post game coverage like? Do they cover that game in depth by explaining various offensive and defensive plays or to they cater to the casual viewer and emphasize player personalites?
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http://www.olntv.com/nw/article/view...l&UserDef=true




Here is a press release from OLN/Comcast
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OLN is gradually abandoning the hunting/fishing market... good news.

It's patently obvious, to me at least, that since Comcast couldn't buy ESPN (which was the prime reason they made the buyout offer for Disney to control ESPN's rate hikes) they're going to build their own. Expect to see OLN (renamed Comcast Sports Nationwide, perhaps?) bid for more major sports as the years go by.
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If it means we get a game or two each night "On Demand" then I'm all for it.

I know there are lots of TiVO fans, and lots of Dish/D-TV fans here, but Comcast is really getting there act together when it comes to DVRs and VOD. IMHO.
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Comcast is still raping me for internet, though. $42.95 a month. And I can't get DSL where I live. Comcast's cable service isn't bad. Their DVR is functional but from what I understand it's a far cry from Tivo.
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To many of us, this is BAD NEWS!!
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To many of us, this is BAD NEWS!!
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Good for hard core hockey fans, but hockey TV ratings are terrible. Their audience is a fraction of the other sports. It's a shame I know, but hockey just isn't what it used to be.

I agree with what leviramsey is saying, this is probably an attempt for OLN to rival ESPN over the next decade. NHL won't help them, but they are ready to branch out from their Tour De France and Kayaking shows. If they can pick up some college sports, some tennis, and some golf they could be an okay sports network.
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I HATE COMCAST. And for too many reasons to list. It is just as easy to say that it is partically because they say they are the best and biggest, but us locals know the real reason is because of big this called a monopoly. I have zero choices for cable and none for internet. Plue one of the top guys, O'Brien, lackS common sense.

With that said I am really looking forward to OLN solely based on all the promises of what they tend to do. Micing players and refs during the season. That was one of the great things about the playoffs. Of course if they try to bring back the tracking puck that FOX screwed up on then I will be pissed. If you can't follow the game then you will never be able to learn the game like the hard core fans. I am actually said that I will mis the first broadcast on OLN of one the oldest rivialiers in Hockey. I will be at the game.

And I am such a huge fan of hockey when anyone asks me what I think about T.O. and the Eagles. My common response if "who cares hockey's back!!!"
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I use to get OLN, but now I have to pay extra to get it back!
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As more details come out, this contract looks less and less fan friendly.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/column...rts-columnists

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Cablevision has 3 million subscribers, and if any of them were thinking of spending $4.95 a month for the digital sports tier that carries OLN, the channel that is replacing ESPN and ESPN2 for the NHL's national cable telecasts this season, they can forget it. The puck stops here.

Up to 78 regular-season games, including as many as eight Rangers, eight Devils and eight Islanders games, as well as a slate of Stanley Cup playoff games and Games 1 and 2 of the Finals, won't be available to you on OLN, we've learned.

Why? Because OLN is on expanded basic digital service in 90 percent of its U.S. distribution of 64 million homes, but not in Cablevision households on Long Island, Brooklyn, the Bronx, Westchester and northern New Jersey.

So, in the latest twist in the wacky world of cable, even if you're willing to pay to watch the NHL here, you can't buy it.

"In markets where OLN is offered on a digital sports tier, which includes Cablevision, we are required through our contracts to black out the games," an OLN spokesperson confirmed yesterday. "There will be alternative programming in that time slot. We are working with our affiliates on the situation. We believe OLN should be included on expanded basic, not a sport tier."

Bull-riding rather than Rangers, perhaps?

It's all about leverage: OLN wants Cablevision to make the channel available to all potential viewers and charge Cablevision a broad-based fee. Viewers, again, are the pawns.

Not only will the Rangers-Flyers season opener Oct. 5 - an OLN exclusive - be unavailable to Cablevision subscribers, the rest of OLN's NHL schedule, primarily on Monday and Tuesday nights, will go unseen in one of the NHL's largest markets.

Anytime OLN chooses to air a Rangers, Devils or Islanders game here, Cablevision subscribers will be totally shut out. The conflict affects only Cablevision subscribers, not Time Warner customers in Manhattan and Queens or DirecTV and DISH Network subscribers who receive OLN as part of a general programming package.
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The fact is ESPN made a wise choice. College basketball got much better ratings than the NHL did. ESPN may have never known that if the NHL hadn't shot itself in the foot. Now the NHL is going to a network with even less exposure than ESPN?? I've read the OLN may want to bid on ESPN's Sunday and Wednesday baseball package. I doubt if ESPN lets baseball go. I'm glad for the hockey fans to get their sport back, but for most, it will be harder to get than it was on ESPN. The NHL should've negotiated a revenue sharing deal with ESPN like they had with NBC. They went for easy cash instead of exposure.
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Further thoughts on my earlier post:

Comcast also owns the Golf Channel.

CSTV is definitely in play (and will likely need someone besides Coca-Cola to be a knight in shining armor, thanks to ESPNU).

CBS acutely needs some sort of cable sports outlet to be taken seriously against Disney and News Corp.'s sports operations. (NBC isn't really relevant in this discussion, given their current aversion to going after big fish in the sports rights field... the WB is even less likely to ever be a real sports player).

CBS has strong ties to golf (2 out of 4 majors, plus a lot of the major market summer PGA stops) and college sports, already collaborates with CSTV on streaming March Madness, and gives OLN airtime for the Tour.

I wouldn't be too surprised to see a Comcast/CBS alliance within the next few years... possibly CBS acquiring CSTV and then merging CSTV and CBS (and maybe, hell, UPN...) Sports with Comcast's sports networks into, say, CBS Comcast Sports LLC. Content, ad sales, etc. would mostly be managed by the CBS team; distribution would be Comcast's responsibility.

Considering that Viacom's people seem to have decent relations with Mel K, any acrimony in his departure notwithstanding, (witness the deal for March Madness from Westwood One, to say nothing of cross-promotions with Comedy Central) and the Sirius/CSTV college sports deal, it's certainly interesting to contemplate where Sirius fits in with this alliance...
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