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Old 09-14-2005, 07:34 PM   #16
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Read the stuff, guys.

Sirius has the NHL (non-exclusively) through the end of the 06-07 season. That's this upcoming season, and the following season.

XM is starting a 10 year relationship, starting with the upcoming season, that goes exclusive in the fall of 2007 for the 07-08 season.

Now a question...will XM be carrying every game? Sirius never has, always saying "Up to 40 games per week", the XM announcement says "...more than 1000 games a season...", but doesn't ever say every game. Anybody have an insight, or is it fair to believe that XM will carry a similar load to what Sirius has always carried?
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Well there are just over 1200 games in the NHL season. I believe it will be similar to how they have handled baseball. Baseball has had every game broadcast (I am not aware of any that have not been on). I think they don't say EVERY game to keep them out of hot water if one doesn't make it on the air.
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Old 09-15-2005, 05:13 AM   #18
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i don't feel that not broadcasting hockey games 2 years from now will affect sirius much. it wasn't an exclusive deal to sirius, anyway. it's like discovery channel. xm didn't want it, so sirius picked it up. same situation here. sirius didn't want it, so xm picked it up.
it's not like nascar....where sirius literally stole it from under xm's nose. now, that was a big loss for xm. i think the nascar fans will happily listen to the nascar channel that sirius is creating for them, as opposed to an exclusive hockey channel.
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Old 09-15-2005, 01:07 PM   #19
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"same situation here. sirius didn't want it, so xm picked it up.
it's not like nascar....where sirius literally stole it from under xm's nose. now, that was a big loss for xm. i think the nascar fans will happily listen to the nascar channel that sirius is creating for them, as opposed to an exclusive hockey channel."

Hmmmmm......So Sirius didn't want the NHL. Hmmm......XM wanted NASCAR but those sneaky b*****ds at Sirius are just too slick for them. LOL.

How do you know that Sirius "stole" NASCAR? That would imply that XM fought hard to keep it, or didn't know about some "secret" negotiations between NASCAR and Sirius. I have a hard time believing that would happen. In business, you don't garner the highest possible price when negotiating exclusively with one company. You always want to have people bidding for your services. Perhaps XM didn't feel it was worth the final price. Same situation for the NHL. How do you figure that XM didn't steal it? How do we know that Sirius didn't fight to keep it? The bottom line is that Sirius would have been foolish not to want the NHL with the future expansion into Canada. It also would have been foolish for XM not to realize the importance of NASCAR. My gut feeling is that both wanted to keep their respective products, but made financial decisions to give them up (price was too high). However, by picking them up, both Sirius and XM found some value to NASCAR and NHL, respectively.
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Hate to see Sirius lose this, but I don't know of anyone that has Sirius for the NHL.
Now you do.....I got Sirius because of 2 things...the NFL and the NHL. Damn, I'm not happy with this at all. If I'm home and can watch the games on Center Ice, no problem but I work out of town alot and do a heavy amount of driving. Was looking forward to be able to listen to games while traveling. Crap.
Me too. There were other small factors, but hockey tipped the scale to Sirius. I'll figure out what to do over the winter. but other than hockey, baseball is the other radio sport I wanted.

Maybe both.
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This sucks =(.
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This sucks =(.
I agree with you there!
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Hate to see Sirius lose this, but I don't know of anyone that has Sirius for the NHL.
Now you do.....I got Sirius because of 2 things...the NFL and the NHL. Damn, I'm not happy with this at all. If I'm home and can watch the games on Center Ice, no problem but I work out of town alot and do a heavy amount of driving. Was looking forward to be able to listen to games while traveling. Crap.
Make that two now. I bought my Sirius a month ago for the NHL exclusively. I enjoy a few other stations on the side, but hopefully they'll be unique and enjoyable enough to keep me subscribing to Sirius after the NHL leaves.
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I am lucky enough to live near my favorite team (the Caps) so I get their regular radio and TV broadcasts so it's not that big of a hit. If they lost the NFL, I would switch to XM.
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Well this is another nail in Sirius' coffin (snicker).
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Well this is another nail in Sirius' coffin (snicker).
Please. Listening to hockey on radio is about as fun as listening to golf or tennis on radio. The NHL is in serious decline. The NHL really screwed the pooch by having their lockout last season. That's the 2nd work stoppage for the league in 7 years. That's worse than the UFCW (Food Store Workers). The NHL is still busy bailing water from that sinking dinghy. First of all, Professional Hockey is a fringe sport and has a cult following. Even in their best revenue years in the late 90's the national TV ratings for Hockey were worse than re-runs of prime time TV shows. Pathetic! Now look at their TV deal here in the states. Outdoor Life Network. Great! That'll sell the product and increase the abysmal ratings. These ass clowns at the NHL can't even garner a 1 share for a nationally televised game on ABC on a Sunday afternoon. Don't hold your breath, hockey fan. It's going to get worse. Even this quick fix money from XM, who over-paid for the package (just like they always do for every other sport) won't give sudden life to that sad excuse for a professional sports league. If XM wants to "steal" the NHL, fine! Have at it. What's it going to cost Sirius in subscriptions, anyway? Less than 100 i'd wager. Up in Canada they have nationally televised games on CBC on at least 1 week night and of course, there's "Hockey Night" on Saturday. Then there's TSN televising games every night that CBC doesn't carry a game. I seriously doubt this decision by Sirius to let XM go right ahead and over-pay for the NHL will affect Canadian subscriptions much. Sirius isn't dumb. They're here to make money, not throw it away. They're quite aware of what I just shared with you about the present state of the NHL and it's gloomy future.
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With Sirius being approved in Canada and hopefully Canadians can subscribe by the first week in December, this announcement couldn't have come at worse time. True both services will offer the NHL for the next two years. If you're a Canadian looking to get a satellite receiver and you go to a retailer and they will tell that both have NHL, but in two years you wouldn't be able to get it (NHL) on Sirius. What would you do? Plus XM will be offering a 24/7 channel dedicated to hockey. Some will say no big deal, but this could have been a big deal for Sirius in Canada.
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Old 09-19-2005, 05:33 AM   #28
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You hit the nail on the head, BatSh*tCrazy.

A lot of Canadians don't give a rip about the NHL, either.

Some of the Canadian NHL owners have been threatening to move their teams to the U.S. for several years now, due to a general lack of support from Canadian fans.

Let XM have 'em.

I'm betting that it will turn out to be a good thing that Sirius didn't get the deal.
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i'm disappointed...i was looking forward to having NHL....this sucks
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A lot of Canadians don't give a rip about the NHL, either.
What??? That definitely isn't true. Canadians live and breathe that sport in droves whether they live in Canada or elsewhere. The sport was doomed for financial failure in Canada and would have lost more cities if it didn't have the lockout - it needed a kick in the butt to get it back to reality. The cap and the rule changes will make the game more exciting and challenging to both the casual and hardcore fans.
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