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SIRIUS XM Radio (Merger Mania) Now that the FCC has "approved" the merger, discuss all the aspects of it and the newly formed company.

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Old 08-11-2008, 09:49 PM   #1
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Default Dual Subscribers - Not Feeling the Love?

I'd like to hear from other dual subscribers on this board.

I've been taking in every interview with Mel Karmazin available lately. Very concerned that the new company will replace "Duplicate" content and transmit the best of breed across both radio dials. The example Mel uses is the '70's channel. Why have two?

In my view, the '70's channels are not pure duplicates. They are similar. For dual subscribers, this means we get a choice of BOTH. (Why not? We're paying for it.)

I for one like the Radio Classics channels on both dials. On numerous occasions, I have turned on both RC channels and listened to my favorite show at the time.

I'm deeply concerned that this "Cost Managing" of the radio dials will result in an explosion of REAL duplicates, where the exact same content is being broadcast on both Sirius and XM legacy receivers at the same time.

Let's face it. SatRad is not like DSS Sat TV. Sirius and XM have a LOT of exclusive content each. DirecTV and Echostar mostly carry content of others. Prior to this merger, XM and Sirius DID COMPETE with each other for content. (Yeah, they ALSO competed with terrestrial radio and other content providers.) This merger will decrease competition between XM and Sirius... Not a bold statement.

This cost managing will likely result in a possible BIG decline in exclusive content when the combined offerings of Sirius and XM are viewed in total.

If this becomes a rampant problem, I might consider dropping all five of my XM units and living with my six Sirius radios, five of which are lifetime subs. This would mean a smaller revenue stream, at least from my house to Sirius-XM.

Does anyone else share my concerns?
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Old 08-11-2008, 10:37 PM   #2
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What if you could get an XM radio for 6.99 a month since you are a Sirius subscriber. Write Sirius and tell them that.

I am trying to promote the idea as much as possible.
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:30 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by tgajr View Post
What if you could get an XM radio for 6.99 a month since you are a Sirius subscriber. Write Sirius and tell them that.

I am trying to promote the idea as much as possible.
I agree I would love to see this be another option. I have not heard Mel mention anything about Dual Subscribers. I have been putting off buying a XM Radio for awhile now hoping you could add channels to your Sirius. However I think there will be a limited number of channels to approved to add and I can't see many music channels on this list.

I saw a list on another board that showed Sirius offering only Sirius Hits 1 as an approved purchase add on. However I as a Sirius subscriber would like to add XM's Lucy, Flight 26 and a few others to my Sirius subscription meanwhile still keeping Sirius' Lithium and The Pulse.

I think before too long I am just going to get tired of waiting and go out and get XM as well. Although I should wait for some new radios to come out first. Waiting is not my strong point however it has been so far on this issue.
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I completely agree that the music channels on XM and the music channels on Sirius a very different. For the most part I like the way XM programs their channels better. I have been saying all along we are going to lose our choice. I still see no benefit as a dual sub.There will be few differences now between the services and according to Mel they aren't combining the bandwidth for 10+ years. There is 0 benefit from this merger for the subs, they way they have decided to handle the merger.

Oh well its here and only time will tell how bad the music programming will be. I'm already annoyed at the volume of single artist channels on XM. The negative effects of Sirius' music programing are already creeping in on XM. I guess when the repeats take over sat rad only use will be sports.
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No love for dual subs. The accounting should merger. $12.95 for your 1st sat radio then a reduced price like $6.99 for all other sirius or xm. Also I would like more info, what channels will be on the best of? Take the 70's channel example when and will the duplicate channels become 1. If that happens the only difference will be talk. I have been a dual sub for a few years, I have cancelled sirius a few times but have kept xm the whole time because it is built into my car.
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To me this seems like a no brainer for SiriusXM. I wager that many more Sirius subscribers would buy a second XM sub at $6.99 if it was treated like just buying a second Sirius sub.
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It is a complicated situation. I have 2 Sirius radios, and 1 XM. At least for the near future, if I can get Howard on my XM radio, which I use portably, then I'll be perfectly happy. I think with the interoperable receivers, they will move to merge the two styles of programming into one until they finally have one single service. The legacy receivers will still work for many years, but the offerings for these radios will decrease over time, forcing subscribers to buy a new interoperable unit, until they can get new sats in the air and complete the merging of the programming.

I hope the channels I love on Sirius don't become XM programmed channels, and vice versa, but there's nothing we can do abou it, except to let them know and unsubscribe.
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Default No, not feeling the love.

Right now, I would want one XM unit to be able get both XM's incredible Potus 08 channel for election coverage AND the Howard channels. How hard would it be to run Howard's channels to XM's signal even in some makeshift, temporary way? I think that's not asking too much.

And yes, why not be able to pay $6.99 each for adding an additional receiver or receivers of the other kind to any existing receiver type? Why am I paying 12.95 more than once for a receiver if I am under the total limit (what is it 12.95 for the first and 6.99 for up to three others?), now that the companies have merged?
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