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Old 10-01-2008, 10:42 AM   #16
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You do know you won't see them if you don't pay an extra $4?

If you can get the Canadian channels, you should be able to get the XM channels.
I've read, and correct me if I am wrong, that our radios should "see" the channels. Should see 2 new categories, XM and XM Sports. And should "see" these new channels and categories, but of course not be able to hear them until you pay for them.
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I've read, and correct me if I am wrong, that our radios should "see" the channels. Should see 2 new categories, XM and XM Sports. And should "see" these new channels and categories, but of course not be able to hear them until you pay for them.
Depends on the radio. The SL2 appearantly does not. OrbitCast also reports another which does not unless you actually order them.
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From my experience selling these radios, here is my THEORY list of radios that will not work with the BEST of XM or any alacarte packages. It is quite interesting that the majority of these radios would be from the most LOYAL and long term subscriber base that Sirius has beacuse these were the first radios released over the first 2-4 years of Sirius being on the air. This is going to leave a bad taste in the long term subscriber base where the new subscribers most likely are getting the newer radios and wont have this issue. What a genious marketing plan by Sirius. Piss off the long term subscriber!!!

Starmate ST1
Starmate Replay ST2 & XACT XTR8 (production in 2005 and 2006 that still to this day dont receive Canadian channels)
Sportster SP-R1
Sportster Replay SP-R2 (First year realease) (still does not get Canadian)
All Audiovox Sir-pnp1 sir-pnp2 Sir-pnp3 (still does not get Canadian)
Oribiter SR4000 DISH SR200 BRIX STREAMER (still does not get Canadian)
JVC KT-SR1000 KT-SR2000 KT-SR3000 (still does not get Canadian)
Probably most original SIRIUS HEAD UNITS
Sirius ONE SV1 (First year realease) (still does not get Canadian)

What is the common denominator here?????????????????
They are all units with the more desirable STRONG FM Fm transmitters and are in the hands of long term subscribers.

I find it even more interesting that XM now has the NBA and not Sirius. It makes sense to me now why they did this to force more subscribers to get new radios and force them to add the Best of XM (xtra money) package if you want the NBA. Im very dissapointed by this merger now, where it may be a win win situation for the SIRIUS XM bottom line its a LOSE LOSE situation for long term loyal Sirius subscribers.
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Secondly, a la carte was going to give us more options.

Let's look at it.

Sure you can get 50 non-premium channels at a discount. OK fine. Well why even pretend to offer more than this?

All Sirius: $12.95
A La Carte plus Howard: $12.95
A La Carte plus Howard plus sports: $12.95

WHAT A DEAL!!!!!!!!

Get 2/3 of your channels turned off and don't save a single penny.

Is this some sort of joke?
You'd have to be half an idiot to order a la carte AND add Howard. The a la carte options are for people that DON'T want Howard. How hard is that to figure out?

If a couple of dollars a month is that hard on you, maybe you should go back to free radio...
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I find it even more interesting that XM now has the NBA and not Sirius. It makes sense to me now why they did this to force more subscribers to get new radios and force them to add the Best of XM (xtra money) package if you want the NBA. Im very dissapointed by this merger now, where it may be a win win situation for the SIRIUS XM bottom line its a LOSE LOSE situation for long term loyal Sirius subscribers.
In my case I'm not even a long time sub. We had it breifly in 04 and switched to XM for Opie and Anthony. In march of this year we bought a new Volvo. My wife wanted XM but thats not an option with Volvo and no one makes a converter to us XM with the factory HU. So we got Sirius with the hopes that O and A would be in the best of.

I've gone round and round with Volvo corporate about this the last 2 days. At first they were giving me the well technology changes line but when I brought up the Canada thing and how this dates back to like 2006 and they have been selling a "broken" receiver since then suddenly they don't make the units they just buy them from a supplier and I should call them. Like WTF is that going to do.

One way or another I'm either getting best of XM on the receiver I have or someone is giving me back the $700 I paid for it and ripping it out of my car.
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From my experience selling these radios, here is my THEORY list of radios that will not work with the BEST of XM or any alacarte packages. It is quite interesting that the majority of these radios would be from the most LOYAL and long term subscriber base that Sirius has beacuse these were the first radios released over the first 2-4 years of Sirius being on the air. This is going to leave a bad taste in the long term subscriber base where the new subscribers most likely are getting the newer radios and wont have this issue. What a genious marketing plan by Sirius. Piss off the long term subscriber!!!

Starmate ST1
Starmate Replay ST2 & XACT XTR8 (production in 2005 and 2006 that still to this day dont receive Canadian channels)
Sportster SP-R1
Sportster Replay SP-R2 (First year realease) (still does not get Canadian)
All Audiovox Sir-pnp1 sir-pnp2 Sir-pnp3 (still does not get Canadian)
Oribiter SR4000 DISH SR200 BRIX STREAMER (still does not get Canadian)
JVC KT-SR1000 KT-SR2000 KT-SR3000 (still does not get Canadian)
Probably most original SIRIUS HEAD UNITS
Sirius ONE SV1 (First year realease) (still does not get Canadian)

What is the common denominator here?????????????????
They are all units with the more desirable STRONG FM Fm transmitters and are in the hands of long term subscribers.

I find it even more interesting that XM now has the NBA and not Sirius. It makes sense to me now why they did this to force more subscribers to get new radios and force them to add the Best of XM (xtra money) package if you want the NBA. Im very dissapointed by this merger now, where it may be a win win situation for the SIRIUS XM bottom line its a LOSE LOSE situation for long term loyal Sirius subscribers.
I can verify that the Starmate Replay ST2, despite what it says on the web site under My Account, works fine with the Best of XM. It would not activate on the website, but after calling them, the service is up and running fine. I would tell everyone not to make the account settings through the web site, but to do it through a CSR. I did not get the name of the guy I worked with, but he was extremely helpful. He also mentioned to me that the CSRs had no idea that the Best of XM was going live yesterday, so if people did have issues yesterday, they can call back today and hopefully get it working.
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I can verify that the Starmate Replay ST2, despite what it says on the web site under My Account, works fine with the Best of XM. It would not activate on the website, but after calling them, the service is up and running fine. I would tell everyone not to make the account settings through the web site, but to do it through a CSR. I did not get the name of the guy I worked with, but he was extremely helpful. He also mentioned to me that the CSRs had no idea that the Best of XM was going live yesterday, so if people did have issues yesterday, they can call back today and hopefully get it working.

I think the right hand forgot to tell the left hand what the fuck it was doing.
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You do know you won't see them if you don't pay an extra $4?

If you can get the Canadian channels, you should be able to get the XM channels.
This was not true for me. I get the Canadian channels.
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From my experience selling these radios, here is my THEORY list of radios that will not work with the BEST of XM or any alacarte packages. It is quite interesting that the majority of these radios would be from the most LOYAL and long term subscriber base that Sirius has beacuse these were the first radios released over the first 2-4 years of Sirius being on the air. This is going to leave a bad taste in the long term subscriber base where the new subscribers most likely are getting the newer radios and wont have this issue. What a genious marketing plan by Sirius. Piss off the long term subscriber!!!

Starmate ST1
Starmate Replay ST2 & XACT XTR8 (production in 2005 and 2006 that still to this day dont receive Canadian channels)
Sportster SP-R1
Sportster Replay SP-R2 (First year realease) (still does not get Canadian)
All Audiovox Sir-pnp1 sir-pnp2 Sir-pnp3 (still does not get Canadian)
Oribiter SR4000 DISH SR200 BRIX STREAMER (still does not get Canadian)
JVC KT-SR1000 KT-SR2000 KT-SR3000 (still does not get Canadian)
Probably most original SIRIUS HEAD UNITS
Sirius ONE SV1 (First year realease) (still does not get Canadian)

What is the common denominator here?????????????????
They are all units with the more desirable STRONG FM Fm transmitters and are in the hands of long term subscribers.

I find it even more interesting that XM now has the NBA and not Sirius. It makes sense to me now why they did this to force more subscribers to get new radios and force them to add the Best of XM (xtra money) package if you want the NBA. Im very dissapointed by this merger now, where it may be a win win situation for the SIRIUS XM bottom line its a LOSE LOSE situation for long term loyal Sirius subscribers.

Well if they were going to do that they shouldn't have put this out

http://investor.sirius.com/ReleaseDe...leaseID=255847


Specifically this section.

" Best of Both Packages Will Be Available on Existing Radios"


"Today, if consumers want the best of both XM and SIRIUS, they need two satellite radios and two separate monthly subscriptions totaling $25.90. Following the merger of SIRIUS and XM, consumers will be able to obtain the best of both SIRIUS and XM, on any of today's satellite radio devices with one monthly subscription. XM customers would continue to receive their existing XM service, and be able to obtain certain SIRIUS programming. SIRIUS customers would continue to receive their existing SIRIUS service, and be able to obtain certain XM programming. This will be available through existing SIRIUS and XM radios at a monthly cost of $16.99, a savings of 34 percent, compared to what it would cost to receive both services today. "


The fact that they knew about this for over a year and didn't tell anyone really pisses me off. The fact that I bought a radio 6 months ago based off their press releases that doesn't work and cost $700 pisses me off even more.
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There problem is that for awhile there was so an influx in the equipment that many may have bought tuners even recently that aren't going to work with The Best Of.

I know on my SL2 I got the recent channel mapping update, but I don't see any XM channels. My understanding it I won't unless I actually subscribe, which I do not plan to do.

However, my Scion xB with the dealer installed XM, I did purchase the Family Plan with The Best of SIRIUS and it updated without a hitch, so I am happy about that. I just wanted NFL Channel and the NFL Play by Play. I dropped from the Everything XM to Family XM and added the Best Of and this saved me a couple of bucks. I don't listen to the xL channels anyway.

I can understand why folks would be pissed off and frustrated because during thie merger stuff, they made it sound like all older radios would be compatible and only NOW we find that isn't the case.

It also seems to me that a hell of a lot more folks with XM are getting The Best of SIRIUS than Sirius subscribers getting The Best of XM. I am not interested in anything in that Best Of XM package.

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Same thing happened with me. I called today and was put on hold for more than 10 minutes and finally spoke with someone who told me that I couldn't get the Best of XM package on my Sirius radio. BS. I'll now have to go out and buy a brand new radio just to listen to the XM stations?

The ONLY station I want is 197 (well 202 The Virus on XM). I want to hear Opie & Anthony. That's the only show on XM worth listening to. That really sucks that my radio can't get it. WTF? It's only like 2 1/2 years old if that.

Edit: That's also BS that Sirius gave NBA Radio (one of my favorite stations) to XM in order to get people like me to want to listen to the Best of XM even more. Now I'll have to go and buy a new radio and boom box (since I only listen to it in at home) which will cost like $150... add that to the now $188 they want me to pay for Sirius Everything AND the best of XM... what the hell... that's now $338 if I want to just listen to the new best of XM on Sirius.

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There problem is that for awhile there was so an influx in the equipment that many may have bought tuners even recently that aren't going to work with The Best Of.

I know on my SL2 I got the recent channel mapping update, but I don't see any XM channels. My understanding it I won't unless I actually subscribe, which I do not plan to do.

However, my Scion xB with the dealer installed XM, I did purchase the Family Plan with The Best of SIRIUS and it updated without a hitch, so I am happy about that. I just wanted NFL Channel and the NFL Play by Play. I dropped from the Everything XM to Family XM and added the Best Of and this saved me a couple of bucks. I don't listen to the xL channels anyway.

I can understand why folks would be pissed off and frustrated because during thie merger stuff, they made it sound like all older radios would be compatible and only NOW we find that isn't the case.

It also seems to me that a hell of a lot more folks with XM are getting The Best of SIRIUS than Sirius subscribers getting The Best of XM. I am not interested in anything in that Best Of XM package.
I think the XM system can handle a-la-carte offerings like the one you just did on almost any of their radios. Sirius' can't. For those of us who suffered through invalid channel names for so long this really should not come as too big of a shock. I think this is the reason why there is only a Sirius a-la-carte radio on the market now.
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Well clearly people familar with Sirius such as a lot of you guys here knew this was coming. I'm sure its just a matter time before a lawyer picks up on this and there is suddenly a class action suit against Sirius and all the car manufactures who sell Sirius. And they will base it solely on that press release that specifically says any radio will be able to subscribe to best of.
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I cant even begin to tell you what a frigin disaster this Merger has become for SIRIUS subscribers. How is it that SIRIUS AQUIRED XM and all the problems lie with Sirius equipment and radio compatibility. I was so for this merger when it first came out, but now NOT SO MUCH. The concept of Sirius getting Xm channels and Xm getting Sirius channels is a great idea, but the fact is that Sirius is using its dual company platform to move and shuffle things around to profit more from the Sirius and XM subscriber. The first problem from this merger occurred when they started testing a new frequency to get the signal to your radio to get ready for the merger. Sirius starting testing this frequency back in April to get ready for this merger and did it in 48 to 72 hours blocks. This affected some Sirius ST2R Replay and XTR8 units and cars with pre installed head units and subscribers for months with no explanation with the oscillation aquiring signal problem. Anyone who called was told your radio is defective and you need a new one. As I have explained in another post ANY older head units and ST2R & XTR8 units not yet ever activated and used are NOW useless. Sirius hung me out to dry with 300 ST2R units that sold well and flawlessly until they started screwing with the signal. Now that the merger is completed they have switched to this new frequency and those radios are now obsolete and useless. So why did they press release this and put this guarantee on their website???

http://investor.sirius.com/ReleaseDe...leaseID=255847



They did it to influence the FCC merger vote while keeping the known compatibilty problem completely secret and telling you your radio is defective or hoping no one is going to notice or complain. Im completely disgusted by these actions and it borderlines pure corruption and collusion at its finest. Maybe all the terrestial people were right after all. Sirius Xm is becoming the monopoly everyone hoped they would not. Not by having an advantage over regular radio or Mp3 players, but by lying to their own loyal and faithful customers and stock holders and hoping they would not notice. Sirius deserves to have its STOCK IN THE DUMPER at 60 cents because it reflects their actions lately. Sirius XM better start fixing and making good on these problems soon. They should offer DEEP discounts to sirius customers who have had to endure these problems and make it up to them somehow. Realize that all the subscribers who have dumped hundreds and hundreds of dollars for their radios, boomboxes, home kits ,car kits are your faithful and loyal base and are what made your company what it is now and allowed you to make this merger happen. Turning your back on everyone with uncompatible radios due to this merger is real bad timing on your part especially in this economy when your forcing subscribers to buy new equipment when they were told in black and white and press released that the equipment they own would not become obsolete for at least 10 years as I heard Mel say on Howards show and we would be able to get Xm channels with no issues or compatibility problems. I really dont know what Sirius Corporate is thinking these days except how to profit more from US. I undertand this is a business and making money is what it is all about, but if I was to predict that before the merger that all XM subscribers would be the ones with no compatibility problems and can have alacarte programming and the best of Sirius with no problems or issues everyone would of thought I was crazy. I admit now I envy Xm subscribers because they got the best end of this Merger by far. Thanks alot Sirius XM and I hope you get your act together beacause your customer service and business practices are coming in to SERIOUS question.
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Some guy on XMFAN claimed he added his BestOfXM to his Sirius lifetime for $150 one time cash. So if anybody was interested that would be just over 37 months to break even.

Who would pay 150.00 for that garbage radio!
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