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SIRIUS XM Radio (Merger Mania) Now that the FCC has "approved" the merger, discuss all the aspects of it and the newly formed company.

 
 
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Old 02-20-2007, 06:25 PM   #61
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Default I think this is the reason behind the stock incentive...

Thanks for the clarification.

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Old 02-20-2007, 06:29 PM   #62
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Stock price has nothing to do with market value (or capitalization). XM is not managed better than Sirius, or Hugh Panero would be CEO of this new merged company. This is a Sirius takeover, plain and simple. Sirius is buying XM with stock. That's why XM shareholders get Sirius stock.
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Old 02-20-2007, 06:53 PM   #63
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Interesting Q&A pdf posted on XM's site: here.

No.

Most interesting part?

Speculate away...
Well it's good that they know the word 'no' so it won't be a surprise when the FCC says no
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Old 02-20-2007, 06:59 PM   #64
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Stock price has nothing to do with market value (or capitalization). XM is not managed better than Sirius, or Hugh Panero would be CEO of this new merged company. This is a Sirius takeover, plain and simple. Sirius is buying XM with stock. That's why XM shareholders get Sirius stock.
Damn straight DJ. Of course, the XMers said it wouldn't/couldn't ever happen. Suck it up and come to pappa Mel boys!
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Old 02-20-2007, 07:28 PM   #65
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Duh. No Sirius to XM shares because the new company will be a larger, more content full SIRIUS. No more Hugh, no more non-ballsy decisions. And yes, Mel is all about advertising dollars, but in case you don't remember, all of us as Sirius subscribers enjoy the only 100% COMMERCIAL FREE Music in Satellite Radio. So no more adds on music. The price will stay at 13 a month, because that is part of the regulation problem in a monopoly. As the only satellite radio, they could raise prices. Instead they pin themselves against free radio as a competitor, leave the price alone, and go after the 90% of people not subscribing. You cant do that with raised prices and they won't. Everyone needs to relax and enjoy the Revolution as Howard would put it.
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Old 02-20-2007, 08:02 PM   #66
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I can see the fcc say no to this already.
They did say no last month but that was before the 5 years was up.
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Old 02-20-2007, 11:56 PM   #67
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First of all this is a long way from done. And I hope it doesn't. There is nothing in this for the subscribers. There's not going to be enough bandwidth to cram the competitors content even if they wanted to, because you have to move it over the existing infrastructure, which is already streched to the max. The alternative option is to replace your radio with a unit capable of decrypting both signals, which alot of people aren't going to do just to hear baseball. Besides if they start making sports alacarte, guess what they will make all sports ala carte. How pissed are you gonna be if you have to start paying for football now? There will be little help with the repeater network either. Nearly all the repeaters for both services are in redundant places so that doesn't help. If anything they will probably end up taking alot of them down. I just don't see anything in this for the consumer. The DOJ and FCC will both see that. These companies are both so cash strapped I don't think they have the dough to grease these wheels.
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Old 02-21-2007, 04:00 AM   #68
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For once I am on the FCC side and hope that this does_not_happen.

The end result will be consumers getting screwed with higher price and fewer options. Layoffs for both companies. Consolidation out the ass that looks good on paper with the end result being huge pay bonuses for higher up management and higher subscription rates for consumers.

Bottom line is how_will_this_attract_more_customers.

It appears the high payout for Howard Stern, Oprah, and others have not helped the satellite industry and maybe these higher expense loads should be dumped.

Poor sound quality is compromised for more channels offered in hopes of gathering a wider listening audience. Obviously this strategy did not work and now we are faced with this merger.

Instead of making tough decisions like these, we see it time and time again where mergers take place giving upper management a false feeling of accomplishment (but a true pay bonus) and stock holders a false "spike" in their stock holdings.

The happy go feeling of false excitement over new channel selections, new equipment, satellite and repeater mergers, more bandwidth, are all smoke and mirrors.

This is truly a sad day for Satellite Radio if this merger should occur.

Look at Clear Channel and what they have turned into.
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For once I am on the FCC side and hope that this does_not_happen.

The end result will be consumers getting screwed with higher price and fewer options. Layoffs for both companies. Consolidation out the ass that looks good on paper with the end result being huge pay bonuses for higher up management and higher subscription rates for consumers.

Bottom line is how_will_this_attract_more_customers.

It appears the high payout for Howard Stern, Oprah, and others have not helped the satellite industry and maybe these higher expense loads should be dumped.

Poor sound quality is compromised for more channels offered in hopes of gathering a wider listening audience. Obviously this strategy did not work and now we are faced with this merger.

Instead of making tough decisions like these, we see it time and time again where mergers take place giving upper management a false feeling of accomplishment (but a true pay bonus) and stock holders a false "spike" in their stock holdings.

The happy go feeling of false excitement over new channel selections, new equipment, satellite and repeater mergers, more bandwidth, are all smoke and mirrors.

This is truly a sad day for Satellite Radio if this merger should occur.

Look at Clear Channel and what they have turned into.
I love the way a person only thinks of themselves and allways assumes the worst. I don't beleive their will be any price hikes. It has the possibility to be a great merger for the consumer. If it doesn't happen, fine, I'm happy with Sirius as is. But as far as layoffs and such, I may be one of those people and still am excited to see what comes of this.
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:39 AM   #70
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just becasue the stock of XM is being converted to Siri doesn't mean it is a Siri takeover. What do you want them to do? Somebody's stock has to be swapped out for the others or a complete new batch of stock will need to be issued. I would assume Sirius' larger market cap is the sole reason for the stock being converted to XM.

Most cases when a merger like this takes place (and notice I said merger) the CEO will come from one company and the Chairman will come from the other then the rest of the board will be filled with a mixed bag of both companies. In takeovers it doesn't work that way. Sirius people will say they won and XM people will say that they won but the truth is nobody knows who won yet.

And the competition isn't about XM vs Sirius it is about XiriusM vs the consumer. Mel has been a proponent of raising rates and going with a tiered structure similar to cable. I can already see it now.

Basic content + XM and Siri Premium content + Video + Sat Nav

could get expensive.

I am a fan of getting the additional channels and I am holding out for a new radio assuming this merger goes through. I just hope the XM exclusive content of Ron and Fez, Opie and Anthony, (screw oprah), MLB, NCAA sports, and varios others are merged with the Sirius content into what would easily be far more entertaining then cable coudl ever be.
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One might assume that Howard has in his contract with SIRIUIS a "no compete" clause...meaning, SIRIUS can't hire another "goofy morning radio show" a la The Howard Stern Show.

When all the channels are available from both services, I exepct Opie and Anthony to be gone unless they go to afternoons (unless they alredy are on afternoons, I don't give a flip about O&A).

Howard will want to be the mainstay morning talk show on the new SelectSatelliteRadio.
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Cornflake guy....last time I checked when Howard is on there are other talk shows on. Maybe I am wrong and Sirius actually kills all the channels until the Howard show is over.
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I mean your more "higher profile" shows that do something "along the same lines" of what Howard does. The sports and Maxim and BBC Mornings and crap don't even register on The Howards radar.

O&A probably doesnt either, but he doesn't like them, so he may not want them around.

I dunno. I'm just spek-a-lating.
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:19 PM   #74
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just becasue the stock of XM is being converted to Siri doesn't mean it is a Siri takeover. What do you want them to do? Somebody's stock has to be swapped out for the others or a complete new batch of stock will need to be issued. I would assume Sirius' larger market cap is the sole reason for the stock being converted to XM...snip...
Well in this case SIRI paid a premium, in stock. It's a buyout, not a takeover, not a merger. If it walks like a duck, quack likes a duck, and looks like a duck, it's a duck.

They're promoting it as a merger of equals. Hmmm, what's equal...not number of subscribers, not coverage area, not losses, not market cap, and they priced XM stock at 4.6x that of SIRI, which is not equal and can't be made equal just by saying its a merger of equals. About the only think I see as equal is the stupidity of both companies to attempt this. They're going to get creamed when they don't win approval.
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The biggest thing I got out of the call was at the very end...when Parsons said, the combined company intends to run BOTH services for at least another 15 years. They will less exclusive content, and more shared content...but XM radios will get an XM service from the XM satellites (and vice-versa for Sirius) for the next decade+.
That's all they had to do from the beginning!!!!
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