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SIRIUS XM Radio (Merger Mania) Now that the FCC has "approved" the merger, discuss all the aspects of it and the newly formed company.

 
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 08:45 AM   #46
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It may be competition to the people that don't already have sat radio, but it is NOT competition as far as I'm concerned. I fired up my first XM radio several years ago, moved to Sirius 3 years ago and have not listened to terrestrial radio since. The only competition is between XM and Sirius. I'm sure Sirius and XM want more subscribers and to get them and help their shareholders a merger looks good. BUT for the sat fans that frequent these forums it will become a monopoly because FM is not a viable alternative.
another excellent point well put.
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:15 AM   #47
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There is competition and options. That's why Sirius and XM subscribers would cancel service if the product is lousy on content, or lousy on price. This is what will keep the companies honest post merger.

This is not like your utility service, where if you don't like them you can "quit".

I think this paranoia about lousy service post merger is not based upon reality. If the churn rate on the companies goes up (which it does when people cancel), their losses go up, or the profits go down. They will do whatever it takes to satisfy the customer to maximize profit. Rasiing prices and dropping content would backfire.

My biggest concern is that I'm 100% happy with the current Sirius programming product. If they start swapping out some of my favorite channels for XM's equivelant, I might not be as satisfied.
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There is competition and options. That's why Sirius and XM subscribers would cancel service if the product is lousy on content, or lousy on price. This is what will keep the companies honest post merger.

This is not like your utility service, where if you don't like them you can "quit".

I think this paranoia about lousy service post merger is not based upon reality. If the churn rate on the companies goes up (which it does when people cancel), their losses go up, or the profits go down. They will do whatever it takes to satisfy the customer to maximize profit. Rasiing prices and dropping content would backfire.

My biggest concern is that I'm 100% happy with the current Sirius programming product. If they start swapping out some of my favorite channels for XM's equivelant, I might not be as satisfied.
Now, THESE post-merger concerns are TOTALLY reasonable. I share them with you, but i still think the upside is better then the downside. Nice to see some rational thinking in here.
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I urge everyone to either watch on YouTube (maybe tomorrow) or read the transcripts from today's hearing. It was literally amazing and answered TONS of questions. Hell, nearly half the congress members were sat subscribers and there seemed to be an overwhelming sense that if this merger froze prices among some other minor concessions that it's gonna go.

Plus, once congressman from Texas thoroughly and utterly destroyed the monopoly argument and in the process made the NAB look like sniveling children.

Again, I urge you to watch/read it.
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I urge everyone to either watch on YouTube (maybe tomorrow) or read the transcripts from today's hearing. It was literally amazing and answered TONS of questions. Hell, nearly half the congress members were sat subscribers and there seemed to be an overwhelming sense that if this merger froze prices among some other minor concessions that it's gonna go.

Plus, once congressman from Texas thoroughly and utterly destroyed the monopoly argument and in the process made the NAB look like sniveling children.

Again, I urge you to watch/read it.
Yep, saw that. He asked the NAB guy why free radio doesn't have to pay the artist and labels money for their music yet sat radio and Ipods, etc have to pay..

The NAB guy sounded lost.
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C-SPAN is airing the hearing again tonight on C-SPAN2, at 8pm EST.

And it was Anthony Weiner (D) of NY that ripped the NAB a new a-hole.

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Old 02-28-2007, 05:57 PM   #52
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Clearly you've never actually listened to the so-called "duplicative" channels on both services, or even looked at their playlists. Their names and descriptions are just about the only thing they have in common. Sirius' channels are hit-oriented. XM's channels play "deeper" (more obscure) tracks. They each appeal to different groups at opposite ends of the music preference spectrum who couldn't endure a 2 hour car trip together without fighting over the radio the whole time.
Clearly you are the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. I've been a dual subscriber to both services for a few years now, so save the condescension.

Having listened to the decades channels on both services too many times to count, it is a MYTH that Sirius only plays the top hits and XM only plays "obscure" music.

You will hear MANY of the top hits of those years on the XM decades channels. You will hear a few more obscure songs on XM's decade channels, but the difference is not that great.
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They will do whatever it takes to satisfy the customer to maximize profit.
Exactly. Mel (and Wall Street) believe that video will make more money for then company than music. Remember a cable channel called "MTV" that used to actually play music videos until they discovered they could make more money showing reality-show reruns ten or twenty times per week? And how every single new channel they spawn -- allegedly, to show music videos for real, forever -- inevitably starts down the slippery slope to endless reruns within months, and plays fewer and fewer music videos every year (*cough* M2 *cough*), especially during primetime?

Video eats bandwidth for breakfast, lunch, dinner, fourthmeal, AND midnight-snack. A merged company with possession of both SDARS licenses can and will slash music channels to free up bandwidth for video, and Mel has said so directly, openly, and unambiguously on multiple occasions. If you value the music channels on Sirius OR XM, you can kiss them goodbye if the merger takes place. Especially if your musical tastes deviate even slightly from those of the Walmart Majority. This goes for BOTH people who subscribe to XM and like/demand deep cuts AND people who subscribe to Sirius who enjoy top hits in a genre like Punk or Trance that nevertheless are on the fringe of commercial radio. If the merger goes through, nobody's favorite channels are safe.

The time to lobby the FCC is NOW. If you wait to see what will happen, it'll be too late by that point. Write to the FCC and urge them:

1) To prohibit a merged company from owning both SDARS licenses

or, failing that, 2) Categorically prohibit a merged company in possession of both licenses from using the bandwidth for video as a condition of allowing them to own both licenses.
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Yep, saw that. He asked the NAB guy why free radio doesn't have to pay the artist and labels money for their music yet sat radio and Ipods, etc have to pay..

The NAB guy sounded lost.
That NAB rep obviously knows that if the merger is approved then commercial radio will be doomed because Mel will ruin satellite radio by putting commercials on the music channels, jacking up prices and cutting out all the programming people like and replacing it with things people don't like. No wonder he argued against it so heavily
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C-SPAN is airing the hearing again tonight on C-SPAN2, at 8pm EST.

And it was Anthony Weiner (D) of NY that ripped the NAB a new a-hole.
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A merged company with possession of both SDARS licenses can and will slash music channels to free up bandwidth for video, and Mel has said so directly, openly, and unambiguously on multiple occasions.
Since Mel has allegedly said it so many times, then I'm sure you can provide us with numerous links to knowledgeable and reliable sources that can document your claim.

We're waiting!
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Old 02-28-2007, 06:58 PM   #57
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The email to Sirius subscribers:
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Together, XM and SIRIUS will be able to improve on products such as real-time traffic and rear-seat video and introduce new ones such as advanced data services including enhanced traffic, weather and infotainment offerings.
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Sure. I think that you ought to assume that the ARPU numbers that will increase in the futures, in part because of additional services, so we’re going to be introducing video,
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Finally, we’ll use our combined resources to improve upon our nascent non-audio services, like Backseat Video, real-time traffic and weather, and other infotainment-style data services.
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I wasn't a big fan of the merger until I read all the doomsday scenarios that are guaranteed to happen and now I'm not so worried...
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We know they are interested in video, I think he was asking for a cite that said he "can and will slash music channels to free up bandwidth for video, and Mel has said so directly, openly, and unambiguously on multiple occasions." to do it.
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The only thing I was worried about is if my current radio (Stiletto 100) will still work after the merger (which Mel confirmed on the Howard Stern show).

As long as my current radio still works after the merger and I still can get all the Sirius channels I enjoy today (and a few XM if I want), I'm ok with the merger.
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