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Old 10-31-2006, 01:47 PM   #1
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Whats everyones thought about being able to add a external ant straight to the ant connector on the bottom of the stiletto ?
Without using a dock ?
I found a patch cable for ssmb jack to ssmb jack, then connect to the ant using the Direct connect ant adapter (http://store.xmfanstore.com/directconnect.html) this is a plug on the ssmb end and the stiletto requires a jack.
So the stiletto to patch cable to Direct Connect adapter to SMB (external Antenna).

This would allow you to use the Stiletto as its intended (no dock) and have the ability to add a better ext antenna (more portable) and use your own earphones.

Im just not completely sure that using the existing antennas ( home or mag mnt) without a dock is ok. the patch cable is like 35 bucks in single quantaties.

Any ideas ?
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I can see it possible. If you took the antenna headphones and cut the connector off. Use the connector and match the wires to the correct leads on an antenna. I am considering doing it this way.
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Problem with that method, using the Headphone anteena adapter is that you cant use the AC connector at the same time, the headphone connector is to wide. Usig the patch canle will allow you to also use the AC adapter or Cig plug power adapter. I guess the question is , the Home/Car antenna dont need power from the dock to work ?





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Can you post a link to the patch cable you are speaking of?

By the way, this would definitely work. I had a project like this going a while back as well, but I just kind of gave up because I was figuring it would cost roughly $40 to do, the cost off a universal dock.

Anyway, I just want to add a few things. The reason this will work is due to the simplicity of the universal dock, which works with the Stiletto. I took my universal dock apart, and found that the antenna connects straight to the Stiletto SSMB plug.

The home/car dock antenna DOES NOT require power from the dock.
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the patch cable is : http://www.pasternack.com/detail.aspx?ID=61668

Granted the cost of this is like 35 + 15 = 50

but the mobility is what im looking at.

Im going to email them and ask if they could make up a cable with a ssmb plug (stiletto end) to a SMB plug ( match the antenna side) for a cost estimate.

I was up in Syracuse,NY this past weekend, the first chance to REALLY use the Stiletto as designed, STRONG local repeater in the city, it was a beautiful thing !!!! Even in the outskirts, I could use it outside without the ant, and inside the hotel with the car dock and the ext antenna.

Back home im using the car dock as a make shift mobile setup with the ext ant setup inside the house for signal. I can take the whole setup around the house wherever Im sitting and use it. The antenna patch cable will allow me to not drag the dock around with me.



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Can you post a link to the patch cable you are speaking of?

By the way, this would definitely work. I had a project like this going a while back as well, but I just kind of gave up because I was figuring it would cost roughly $40 to do, the cost off a universal dock.

Anyway, I just want to add a few things. The reason this will work is due to the simplicity of the universal dock, which works with the Stiletto. I took my universal dock apart, and found that the antenna connects straight to the Stiletto SSMB plug.

The home/car dock antenna DOES NOT require power from the dock.
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Hey - I am pretty much in the same boat that you are in. What about using the XM Repeater with the Stiletto?
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Awesome! Let me know what they tell you about that patch cable.
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Whats everyones thought about being able to add a external ant straight to the ant connector on the bottom of the stiletto ?
Without using a dock ?
I found a patch cable for ssmb jack to ssmb jack, then connect to the ant using the Direct connect ant adapter (http://store.xmfanstore.com/directconnect.html) this is a plug on the ssmb end and the stiletto requires a jack.
So the stiletto to patch cable to Direct Connect adapter to SMB (external Antenna).

This would allow you to use the Stiletto as its intended (no dock) and have the ability to add a better ext antenna (more portable) and use your own earphones.

Im just not completely sure that using the existing antennas ( home or mag mnt) without a dock is ok. the patch cable is like 35 bucks in single quantaties.

Any ideas ?
I have one of those SSMB-to-SMB adapters you linked to...in fact, I bought it from xmfanstore along with a micro car antenna with a super-short cable to use with my old AirWare. The thing worked great, because I carry all of my devices between multiple cars, and I hate using any type of dock where you have to remove the radio from a case each time to dock it.

If you order that connector for $15, you can add the micro-antenna with short cable for only $15 more...pretty good deal...

If you make any progress on your patch cable, please let us all know, I would definitely be interested in getting this dock-less set up working...
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For 160 bucks, im thinking id be happier with the ant cable. But being able to move freeely around without a wire is a nice thouight. Theres been mixed comments on it. But I do think you have to use XM antennas with it. And you still need the ant patch cable to plug the receiver end of the repeater into it without a dock attachment.
I dont know how much success anyone has had with one.


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OC - the SSMB-to-SMB adapter you have, what type is the SSMB side ? male or female ? I know the SMB side will fit the ant connector.
Im pretty sure its a plug side, and the stiletto needs a jack connector



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I have one of those SSMB-to-SMB adapters you linked to...in fact, I bought it from xmfanstore along with a micro car antenna with a super-short cable to use with my old AirWare. The thing worked great, because I carry all of my devices between multiple cars, and I hate using any type of dock where you have to remove the radio from a case each time to dock it.

If you order that connector for $15, you can add the micro-antenna with short cable for only $15 more...pretty good deal...

If you make any progress on your patch cable, please let us all know, I would definitely be interested in getting this dock-less set up working...
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I am pretty sure the ssmb to smb adapter he is talking about is a larger version of the direct connect that was posted earlier. So it still would not work with the stiletto unless we get the ssmb patch cable to go along with it.
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OC - the SSMB-to-SMB adapter you have, what type is the SSMB side ? male or female ? I know the SMB side will fit the ant connector.
Im pretty sure its a plug side, and the stiletto needs a jack connector
I'll have to take a look at it tonight, but I am almost positive it is a female connector on the SSMB side, but don't quote me on that...
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I'll probably go the ssmb adapter way. One question though would the Car plug from my old xact xtr1 work for power. I am pretty sure the power is 5v. If the power connector is not the same is there a place that sells just the 5v adapter.

I know I could use the AC with a AC/DC converter but wanted to get away from doing that. (I have been doing that since my orginal 5volt adapter broke.)

I am a little hesitate to make the adapter myself since I killed a computer one time

Does radio shack sell the ssmb connector? or any other place like that?

Thanks
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The Stiletto is using all new adapters, dont think any of the old power adapters work (at least not my Sportster doesn't)
I havent been able to track down that power adapter plug yet.

The only places I've found references to a ssmb jack is electronic parts shops that handle RF connectors, this one is not a popular type

Im talking to a RF connector company about makeing a patch cable with the right ends.


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I'll probably go the ssmb adapter way. One question though would the Car plug from my old xact xtr1 work for power. I am pretty sure the power is 5v. If the power connector is not the same is there a place that sells just the 5v adapter.

I know I could use the AC with a AC/DC converter but wanted to get away from doing that. (I have been doing that since my orginal 5volt adapter broke.)

I am a little hesitate to make the adapter myself since I killed a computer one time

Does radio shack sell the ssmb connector? or any other place like that?

Thanks
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I'll probably go the ssmb adapter way. One question though would the Car plug from my old xact xtr1 work for power. I am pretty sure the power is 5v. If the power connector is not the same is there a place that sells just the 5v adapter.

I know I could use the AC with a AC/DC converter but wanted to get away from doing that. (I have been doing that since my orginal 5volt adapter broke.)

I am a little hesitate to make the adapter myself since I killed a computer one time

Does radio shack sell the ssmb connector? or any other place like that?

Thanks

I use my XM2Go power adapters with my Stiletto without any problems, just takes a wee bit longer to charge the battery because the XM adapter puts out 5V @2.0A, while the Stiletto adapter does 5V@2.5A. I haven't even taken my Sirius adapter out of the box, I just immediately started using the XM ones I already had plugged in at home and in the car when I saw they were the same. I also have an XM tip connector for my iGo laptop adapter, and it works great on the SL100.

The XM power adapters I am speaking of are the ones for the MyFi/Tao/AirWare and the newer Inno/Helix models...they are all the same, both the home plug and the car plug work perfectly, the plug tip is identical to the Sirius unit.

Looks like Sirius and XM are both using some non-proprietary parts for their units, which is a good thing.

As for the SSMB connector, Radio Shack does not have them...but find a shop that specializes in GPS antennas and devices, they sometimes use the SSMB and SMB connectors...
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