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Old 11-02-2006, 10:30 PM   #1
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Forgive me if this has already be covered, but I searched and found no hits.

Is it me or does the Stiletto FM modulator suck so bad that it is basically worthless. I drive down the road, bouncing from one FM channel to the next and can't get through a song without some sort of interference...

Besides direct connect, does anyone have any suggestions for making this more of a functional product?
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:53 AM   #2
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all fm transmitters on all new satellite radio devices are all pretty much crippled.
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Old 11-03-2006, 03:50 AM   #3
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Forgive me if this has already be covered, but I searched and found no hits.

Is it me or does the Stiletto FM modulator suck so bad that it is basically worthless. I drive down the road, bouncing from one FM channel to the next and can't get through a song without some sort of interference...

Besides direct connect, does anyone have any suggestions for making this more of a functional product?
Because all new Sirius receivers will have lower power FM transmitters built-in due to the FCC crackdown, you'll need to use either a direct connection OR this FM Switch Relay($20) http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/SIRIU...oductDetail.do to get around this problem.
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Old 11-03-2006, 04:21 AM   #4
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There are many posts on the stiletto site concerning the FM Modulator's weekness or strength. But the responses so far to you post might help your search words.

Most people touch on it in their car installation reviews or Home dock reviews.

The bottom line is to receive a static free reception via FM radio you need to install the FM Modulator Relay or as sirius calls it the FM Direct Adapter. There is a stilcky post that shows how to hook it up. Basically what it does is disconnect your Radio's antenna and connects the Sirius Weak signal from the FM Out transmission to the antenna cable to your radio. It does this only when your Sirius Radio is on. Otherwise your radio works fine with the antenna.

I suggest you go back and do an advanced search for key word Modulator and select only the Stiletto group go through each of posts it finds many won't be relevent, but it will help you get an understanding of the limitations of the new radio fm modulator.

Again welcome to the Backstage forum. It's a great place to find answers. Many of the people and moderators will help you. Feel free to PM or email me with your questions.
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Old 11-03-2006, 05:03 AM   #5
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Forgive me if this has already be covered, but I searched and found no hits.

Is it me or does the Stiletto FM modulator suck so bad that it is basically worthless. I drive down the road, bouncing from one FM channel to the next and can't get through a song without some sort of interference...

Besides direct connect, does anyone have any suggestions for making this more of a functional product?
Maybe I'm one of the lucky one's but my Stiletto's range covers the entire house.

I had a crippled 2nd generation Sportster that wouldn't even transmit the length of the clothes dresser top.
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http://www.pokerpulse.com/2-5mm.htm

Use that to make an antenna that plugs into the FM Out port on your dock. It'll dramatically increase the strength of your signal. If you have an old sportster, I know that came with one. I think you can use any old pair of headphones and just cut off the buds and it will work too.
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:53 PM   #7
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Dunno about anyone else but after installing the FM relay my reception will still cut out every so often. My S50 using just the FM tx has better reception that my Stiletto using the FM relay. These new FCC rules blow. By the way does anyone know if the car dock charges the Stiletto. The S50 gets charged by using it's car dock but I haven't noticed the car dock for the Stiletto charging the unit.
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I'm toying with returning the car dock for this very reason. The FM transmitter is horribly weak even with the wired relay installed. And if anyone doesn't think so just try comparing the signal with that of the line out using a cassette adapter. The volume level must be 4x louder.
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I'm toying with returning the car dock for this very reason. The FM transmitter is horribly weak even with the wired relay installed. And if anyone doesn't think so just try comparing the signal with that of the line out using a cassette adapter. The volume level must be 4x louder.
If you return the car dock, how do you plan on using the Stiletto? Might as well return the whole shebang. BTW, ever considered direct FM mod connection or this:

http://www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com/

Seems to have great reviews. Also includes a car kit.

There are options outside of the car dock FM mod. It's practically useless, so you either look to alternatives or sell your Stiletto (that is if you plan on using it in the car...)
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If you return the car dock, how do you plan on using the Stiletto? Might as well return the whole shebang. BTW, ever considered direct FM mod connection or this:

http://www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com/

Seems to have great reviews. Also includes a car kit.

There are options outside of the car dock FM mod. It's practically useless, so you either look to alternatives or sell your Stiletto (that is if you plan on using it in the car...)
I'm no newbie and have been with SIRIUS for 2 years now with the JVC PNP installed with the same FM relay I'm using today with the Stiletto. The difference between the two makes it so obvious and criminal how SIRIUS pandered to the FCC/RIAA by toning down the FM transmitters. I may have to pull the old cassette adapter (god forbid) out of storage since unfortunately direct connect is not an option with my vehicle.

I'll still use it connected through the home kit and of course portably (it's intended purpose mind you) so selling the "whole shebang" as you say is just silly and not an option.
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I live in the DC area and originally had an S50 car kit. That kit came with an FM booster antenna that significantly boosted the wireless FM signal. I'm using that booster antenna on my Stiletto car kit and the signal is about 95% static free. I drove to Philadelphia and back and the only time I heard static was when my Stiletto was paused/muted, and even then it was very faint.
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I'm toying with returning the car dock for this very reason. The FM transmitter is horribly weak even with the wired relay installed. And if anyone doesn't think so just try comparing the signal with that of the line out using a cassette adapter. The volume level must be 4x louder.
Well I just couldn't stand it and have returned the car dock. So for now it's the home dock and portable use only but I am considering the Soloist which does look quite nice -- maybe when the price comes down a bit though. I may go back to using the car dock if SIRIUS/XM grew a pair and fought back against the FCC/RIAA on these FM transmitters. I mean, there must be 25 million Ipod owners using FM transmitter as well when they're in their cars and I don't see any targeting of them at all.
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Well I just couldn't stand it and have returned the car dock. So for now it's the home dock and portable use only but I am considering the Soloist which does look quite nice -- maybe when the price comes down a bit though. I may go back to using the car dock if SIRIUS/XM grew a pair and fought back against the FCC/RIAA on these FM transmitters. I mean, there must be 25 million Ipod owners using FM transmitter as well when they're in their cars and I don't see any targeting of them at all.
I just wonder if you had a problem with the wired relay. Mine works great with it no more static at all.

Here is a test that I did when I tested it.

With the Stiletto off, I hit the scan button of my radio and counted the number of stations the scan stopped at.

Then I turned on the stiletto and repeated it.

In my case I could really see a difference. 26-1 With the Stiletto off, the radio scan stopped 26 times on strong FM stations, With the stiletto on it stopped only once the FM frequency set to receive the Stiletto.

I live in the DC area and it seemed that if I drove 15 minutes anywhere I had to find another less crowed station. On my S50 the only saving grace was that it used 87.7. That was the only way I could receive the music without static.

I would guess that you must of had an issue with your wired relay. It does work and it works well.

Give the Car Dock another chance. This time make sure the Relay is installed and working.
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If you return the car dock, how do you plan on using the Stiletto? Might as well return the whole shebang.
Why do I need a car dock? Can I still record without using the car dock. If I hook up power, an antenna and use a tape adapter can I still use all the functions of the Stilleto without a car dock. I know I wouldn't have the use of the channel presets but what else would I really miss.

I know I can not simply hook an antenna directly to the stilleto but there should be ways around this.
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I know I can not simply hook an antenna directly to the stilleto but there should be ways around this.
The antenna is the tricky part. Everything else you say is true. Currently it costs about the same or more to buy adapters/patchcables etc with shipping then to simply buy a car dock which has all the parts you need.
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