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Old 11-09-2006, 05:34 PM   #16
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ok so today I had my usual 6 hour recording of Stern show going and the unit had been on for just over 5 hours when I checked on it. The display was totally off so I imagined it was asleep. Well it wasn't. It was recording with the display totally off.

I hit a button and the display went on. The heart (which displays when the unit is recording) was not on. I figured that the unit had fallen asleep and therefore stopped recording. So I checked the Library (area where stored recorded segments are stored) and sure enough all of the segments were there in full. The unit was indeed recording even though the heart was not present. I think the display was just off and for some reason the heart was not there even though the unit was recording properly.

I'm not going to assume that the unit is asleep like I have been anymore because I think I mistaked that with the fact that the display had just turned off.

I wish we could have a concrete answer to when/why the display turns off and when/why the unit goes to sleep automatically when using the car dock?
This was my original point; the Stiletto records in sleep mode without any visual indication that it is doing so (i.e. the screen turning on.)
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Old 11-10-2006, 09:53 AM   #17
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From the Stiletto FAQ:

# Q: Will STILETTO 100 automatically wake up to start a scheduled recording?
A: Yes, as long as the STILETTO 100 is plugged into a powered Home Dock and connected to an antenna that has a clear view of the sky, the device will automatically wake up to record the requested channel, then go back to sleep. Automatic wake and record is not currently supported when a STILETTO 100 is used with a Car Dock.

I have found the same issue - no auto record from sleep in a Car Dock, dont have a Home dock yet

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Umm, I beg to differ. I'm using a car dock in my hotel room plugged into an AC apapter with power 24/7 and I am experiencing the same problem. Scheduled recordings don't commence if it sleeps before scheduled the start time. I don't have this problme sitting in the home dock when I'm home, and it has never gone to sleep at any time.

As for the unit recording while in sleep mode, it doesn't in the car dock as far as my experience has gone. The home dock may be a different story.
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Old 11-10-2006, 10:55 AM   #18
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[QUOTE=n2ry]From the Stiletto FAQ:

# Q: Will STILETTO 100 automatically wake up to start a scheduled recording?
A: Yes, as long as the STILETTO 100 is plugged into a powered Home Dock and connected to an antenna that has a clear view of the sky, the device will automatically wake up to record the requested channel, then go back to sleep. [B]Automatic wake and record is not currently supported when a STILETTO 100 is used with a Car Dock.



For the second day in a row the unit has only recorded the first 3 hours of my set 6 hour recording. (my set 6 hour recording is set to record 6 single hour segments)

I am working up the theory that:

#1) After three hours of set recording the Stiletto goes to sleep in the car dock.

#2) After four hours of not touching an buttons or anything, the Stiletto goes to sleep in the car dock.

Not sure which theory is true if any of them? Pleas post if you have any new evidence.
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:35 AM   #19
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I have the car dock and am using the AC adapter that came with the Stiletto to use in my home. I too have the same problem with it not waking up to record a show. It turns itself off after a few hours in the dock.


Maybe it's the cynic in me, but I am of the belief that this device was designed to pretty much force us to buy accessories for it where competitors supply more.

I own both the Stiletto and the Inno. I prefer Sirius over XM, but XM hardware for their portables at least include a home dock and a belt clip.

The Stiletto design will not let you plug an AC adapter in it with the headphone antennae plugged in, so recording that way is a bust, unless you file the plug down to force a fit.

The Stiletto did not come with a dock or a case.

Those of us who are former S50 owners who wanted to save a few bucks by using the car dock as a Home dock as well now cannot do that with the Stiletto because the device will not wake up, therefore resulting in the need to also buy a home dock to get the desired results.

At least they gave us two batteries.(sarcasm)

I love the interface of the Stiletto and feel it is superior to the competitors, but Geez, throw your loyal listeners a bone by providing a basic case and at least allowing the ability to use the car dock as a home dock.


I know that perhaps there may be a reason why it goes to sleep after a few hours, but with the lack of included accessories I am pretty sure it is just to get more sales.
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Yes, the Stilletto, after about three or four hours of not touching any button will go to sleep. I first experienced this the other day when I was travelling. I was riding with a sales rep and we took my car (because of Sirius) and after a long appointment, we came out and I noticed that the car dock was off and the stiletto was asleep.

Not a big deal because it turns back on in less than 2 seconds. Plus, I've left my old Visor on in my other car for three days straight and it drained the battery so I consider this four hour shut down a nice feature.
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I think it would be an excellent feature, provided that we had the option to disable it.
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:42 AM   #22
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True. Being able to disable would be nice.
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Old 11-13-2006, 12:23 AM   #23
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I wish we could have a concrete answer to when/why the display turns off and when/why the unit goes to sleep automatically when using the car dock?
You wanted an official word... here it is:

In the powered car dock the stiletto will go to sleep after 4 hours of no user activity unless a recording is in progress in which case it will go to sleep after the recording is over.

This is done to protect the car battery from being drained given that some cars leave the CLA powered when the car is not running.

The stiletto will also go to sleep when a car dock loses power, in this case the user is given 15 seconds to stop the stiletto from going into sleep mode. In an unpowered dock, the device behaves as if it was in portable mode.
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I still don't know why they didn't make it an option though. I am sure that there are plenty of truck drivers that must get annoyed when their device goes to sleep and they have to reach over to turn it back on.

Not to mention everyone that uses it with an AC adapter to record in their home. It just smells of trying to get a few more bucks by selling home docks. It worked on me. I just ordered a home dock. I missed a bunch of shows already due to this.
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That would only happen if you left it on the same channel and never touched it for 4 solid hours. I don't know many people that do that. It says if there is no user activity it will go to sleep in 4 hours. Now that you know this, turn up the volume or turn down the volume once and your good to go for another 4 hours.

The manual also clearly states you need the home dock for schedule recording. Yes it's more money, but clearly that was the plan. The way they setup the adapters on the botton almost makes it impossible to use for scheduled recording as a stand alone device while on AC power, unless you are in an area served by a strong repeater. If you've invested this much money, you might as well bite the bullet and be able to make full use of the device. If this is the case it was more to help retailers than SIRIUS or Directed, because they don't make much on these kits.
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That would only happen if you left it on the same channel and never touched it for 4 solid hours. I don't know many people that do that. It says if there is no user activity it will go to sleep in 4 hours. Now that you know this, turn up the volume or turn down the volume once and your good to go for another 4 hours.

The manual also clearly states you need the home dock for schedule recording. Yes it's more money, but clearly that was the plan. The way they setup the adapters on the botton almost makes it impossible to use for scheduled recording as a stand alone device while on AC power, unless you are in an area served by a strong repeater. If you've invested this much money, you might as well bite the bullet and be able to make full use of the device. If this is the case it was more to help retailers than SIRIUS or Directed, because they don't make much on these kits.
Thanks for checking on all of this DAB. I am going to try to get away with having the Stiletto 100 and Car Dock for now and pick up the Home Kit later.

I am hoping to park the car at work at 8:30, and leaving the Stiletto on to record ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd show beginning at 10. My impression is that I will be OK because I am in the 4 hour window.. it will record the show, then go to sleep. Am I correct on this?

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"That would only happen if you left it on the same channel and never touched it for 4 solid hours. I don't know many people that do that."

I disagree. Most of the Stiletto and S50 owners I know, listen to Stern which runs well over 4 hours regularly. Even if it wasn't one particular show, some long distance drivers may like to listen to one particular channel without changing it or having to touch it every 4 hours.

"The way they setup the adapters on the botton almost makes it impossible to use for scheduled recording as a stand alone device while on AC power"

With the vent clips attatched, the car dock makes for a very good home dock. It angles the dock to keep the wires from knocking it down or getting in the way.

At the very least they could have given owners the option of disabling the 4 hour sleep function. Some people like to record programs from their car for the drive home. If they get to work at 9am and want to record a show at 2pm to listen to at 5pm, they can't.

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pitcher, I agree it should be user configurable, but at this time it is not. I really don't think as many people as you believe stay on one channel for a solid 4 hours. I listen to Stern too, but I do occasionally change the volume or even flip the channel for a few minutes. The botton line is now that you know, the simple solution is change the volume up and back down. You now got another 4 hours.

I don't think SIRIUS/Directed intended this device to be used in the auto for recording. Right now it probably wouldn't matter with the cooler weather, but I think you take a big chance of burning the unit up leaving it inside a hot car trying to record. If they made it easy and it looked as if the were encouraging this type use then they would have people wanting them to swap them out for burning them up in cars. These units already get warn enough as it is in normal use, can you imagine inside a closed up vehicle in the summer?

Like I said I do agree with them making the auto shut-down optional, but 4 hours isn't going to matter for most people. In fact this is really the first thread that this has even been mentioned and this thing has been out now for what 5 weeks?
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I agree that they probably wanted to protect the device and car battery by having the four hour sleep function, but seeing as how many S50 owners used the car dock as a home dock, (mainly due to problems with the home docks as well as the home dock shutting down after 2 hours then restarting, causing the loss of 5 minutes between consecutive recordings), I figured Sirius would have seen these threads and realized that many would use the car docks inside the home.

I'm not sure why this is the only thread, I just assumed it was because people only started getting the car docks due to backlogs. Who knows, we may see more or their questions may be answered here. I know mine were. I appreciate your filling us in on Sirius's official word on the Stiletto.

Anyway, in my case, the issue is moot as I have ordered a home dock. I wouldn't care so much if I didn't think that the Stiletto is the best portable Satellite receiver on the market, which I do.
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One way to beat this is to push a button on the unit at least 3hrs 57mins before 5am (central time) when stern starts. So push a button a little after 1am and then have the recorded segment to be one full 6hr segment. The long segment will allow for the unit not to shut off until the Stern show is over.
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