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Old 11-09-2006, 04:30 PM   #1
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I recently found out that soon after the first of the year our area will get cable and high speed internet service. All we have had out here is sloooooow dial-up and 60' tower antennas for tv (unitl Dish sat tv came out). So, I may soon be using the Stiletto's wifi capability although I do not know a thing about that stuff - yet.

The cable packages are expensive, as you can imagine, since there is no dsl or other kind of broadband competition out here. What I want to know is what speed is enough for the Sirius internet stream? For that matter, does anyone know what places like youtube.com require to watch a video without constant buffering? I have never been able to listen to music or watch videos over the internet and want to maximize this now that I will have the ability to do so.

The cable company says they will have download speeds of 128, 256, 384, 512 (all Kb) and 1Mb. It goes up from there but that is really expensive and mostly for business use. I know the 1Mb is really fast but I do not want to spend a lot of money for speed I will never use ( btw, I don't care about uploading, only downloading). As an example, their rates will be $60 per month for 384 Kb downstream/128 Kb upstream). I'm just not sure what is enough for me since I only know about my miserable 36 Kb dial up (and thats if I'm lucky).

What speed would you all recommend for me, first in terms of the Stiletto wifi and second, while we're at it, for general use in web surfing and video/music streams and downloading interest?
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Standard Road Runner speed is up to 5 Mbps x 384 kbps
5mbps is the download speed 384kbps is the upload speed.

you need to worry the most about the upload speed if i'm not mistaken for the stiletto.
the 384 should do but if you dont want to have the occasional buffering going on while you listen to the stiletto then you might want to get the 512

i say 512 but if your on a budget then 384
but dont you always say it's only money?
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fyi, if you dont know what road runner is.

road runner is high speed internet service from the cable company. (time warner)

good service. which company will you be using?
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The cable company says they will have download speeds of 128, 256, 384, 512 (all Kb) and 1Mb. It goes up from there but that is really expensive and mostly for business use.

What speed would you all recommend for me, first in terms of the Stiletto wifi and second, while we're at it, for general use in web surfing and video/music streams and downloading interest?
What cable company is this? I know coming from dial up you must be thrilled, but the reason I ask is that their price seems high and their speeds seem lows especially for cable!

I have Cox Communications, excuse me it is now Suddenlink and my connection speed is 4MB download 768KB upload for $39 per month. I can bump that to 5MB download and 1MB upload for $49 per month.

$60 for 384KB... ouch!!!! I wouldn't go any less that 384KB myself, but their prices are beyond believable this day and time. GEEZ!!! I didn't realize how blessed I am in my area. I won't complain about what I pay for internet ever again!
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you need to worry the most about the upload speed if i'm not mistaken for the stiletto.
No, you don't upload the music, you download it. So the download speed is what is important. Upload is like if you are uploading files to server or sending files to others.

The Stiletto downloads the music from the Zing servers at 32kb and the online service you can go up to 128kb. So if you will just be using the Stiletto, you could actually start out with a lower speed until the add the 128KB to the Stiletto, then you could bump your download speeds up.

I sure wish their prices wasn't so high for you though... But congrats on getting it and getting away from dial up!
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No, you don't upload the music, you download it. So the download speed is what is important. Upload is like if you are uploading files to server or sending files to others.

The Stiletto downloads the music from the Zing servers at 32kb and the online service you can go up to 128kb. So if you will just be using the Stiletto, you could actually start out with a lower speed until the add the 128KB to the Stiletto, then you could bump your download speeds up.

I sure wish their prices wasn't so high for you though... But congrats on getting it and getting away from dial up!
if what you say is correct,

(im not doubting you)

my 5 Mbps downstream connection will occasionally buffer the sirius stream from the stiletto.

i wouldnt think that a 5 Mbps download speed should have a problem playing wifi.

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im going to go and do a internet test speed and see what i get.
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my 5 Mbps downstream connection will occasionally buffer the sirius stream from the stiletto.
Mine does it too every now and again, but this doesn't have anything to do with my download speed is fine. This could be related to the internet on their end, but you know cable does what they call bursting, so I think an occasional slow down also happens too. It also depends on how many people are on your node and how much bandwidth they are using. No provide guarantees a constant 5MB download or throughput speed. So in my opinion an occasional rebuffering is probably normal.
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Yea, like I said in the op, there is no competition out here so they can charge what they want to. If I wanted to go to 1.5Mb it would cost $199.00! I can't believe some of you are getting 5Mb!! They do bundle services together which gives you a break of sorts. For example, I can get 1Mb download high speed internet, local phone service and a rather basic tv package for $99. That makes more sense than just the internet service where they really stick it to you.

The problem with the bundle deal is that last week I left Directv and signed up with Dish Network primarily so I could have Sirius (and I am very, very happy with that!). So, I don't need the tv part and in fact it is a pretty bad offering as it is. I mean they (ETexCommunications) don't provide a PVR or even support HD tv. Some other people out here in the "Piney Woods" section of East Texas are getting this service now so I will check with them and see what works.
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Yea, like I said in the op, there is no competition out here so they can charge what they want to. If I wanted to go to 1.5Mb it would cost $199.00! I can't believe some of you are getting 5Mb!! They do bundle services together which gives you a break of sorts. For example, I can get 1Mb download high speed internet, local phone service and a rather basic tv package for $99. That makes more sense than just the internet service where they really stick it to you.

The problem with the bundle deal is that last week I left Directv and signed up with Dish Network primarily so I could have Sirius (and I am very, very happy with that!). So, I don't need the tv part and in fact it is a pretty bad offering as it is. I mean they (ETexCommunications) don't provide a PVR or even support HD tv. Some other people out here in the "Piney Woods" section of East Texas are getting this service now so I will check with them and see what works.

you know all of your problems could be solved if you put a antenna on your roof.

then you will have the perfect signal that you will need.

i think i heard you say that you are older?
are you afraid to wander up on your roof?

have any family or friends that could put an antenna up on your roof?

i will soon have 2 permanent outdoor antennas for my sirius radios in my home.

with the 2 antennas hooked up i will have 3 locations that i can hook up my radios and have a perfect signal.
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i know a roof antenna wont help you with wifi but it will get your stiletto a perfect signal

it will let your home deck plug into your home system.

it will let you plug your home deck into your computer and allow you to record and edit the music and store the music to your computer and transfer it to other devices.
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Yea, like I said in the op, there is no competition out here so they can charge what they want to. If I wanted to go to 1.5Mb it would cost $199.00! I can't believe some of you are getting 5Mb!! They do bundle services together which gives you a break of sorts. For example, I can get 1Mb download high speed internet, local phone service and a rather basic tv package for $99. That makes more sense than just the internet service where they really stick it to you.

The problem with the bundle deal is that last week I left Directv and signed up with Dish Network primarily so I could have Sirius (and I am very, very happy with that!). So, I don't need the tv part and in fact it is a pretty bad offering as it is. I mean they (ETexCommunications) don't provide a PVR or even support HD tv. Some other people out here in the "Piney Woods" section of East Texas are getting this service now so I will check with them and see what works.
Really 5mb is nothing these days. In the NYC area, internet speeds are upto 30mb thanks to the competition between Cablevision and Fios from Verizon. Meanwhile here in upstate NY, I have an 8mb connection from Time Warner for $70, what sucks is 7mb is $40. I'm a bandwidth hog and want as much as possible so I have no problem with the price, it would be nice though if they did increase the speeds for Road Runner Premium subscribers. Unbundled price is $85/month, I was paying that until I switched from DirecTV to digital cable
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As an example, their rates will be $60 per month for 384 Kb downstream/128 Kb upstream). I'm just not sure what is enough for me since I only know about my miserable 36 Kb dial up (and thats if I'm lucky).
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The 384 Kbps will be a great improvement and your user experience will be marvelously enhanced in contrast to what you can get over your current dial-up internet connection. You can even have two people using 128 Kbps streams without buffering. Where you may run into issues with speeds in that range will be with streaming video, not with streaming audio. Streaming video (movies, etc) is best experienced at and above 700 Kbps (NTSC TV quality 640x480 resolution video on the computer.) However, video at 300 Kbps and below is offered on most news sites, google video, youtube, etc. I’m sure you’ll be way excited with 384 Kbps – but I would not go less than that if you can afford it. J If you get lucky, your internet provider will not have advanced their architecture to ‘cap’ the connection speed yet and you’ll get the fastest connection they have anyway, no matter what you pay for / sign up for. For example - here in Houston, I pay for business class Cable internet from RoadRunner – my service level is 1.5 Mbps down / 768 Kbps up for $99 / mo – however I get about 5 Mbps down and over 1.5 Mbps up.

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Cleveland - I don't mind going up on the roof (I'm not quite 60 yet so I can still do that). I am getting a home dock from TSS (should arrive today) and I will mount the antenna wherever I get the strongest signal which could be on my deck or I'll go to the roof if need be. I only asked about wifi and internet speeds because I wanted to try that out too since I will now have the ability to do so.

Shivachrome - I can't believe some people have 5 or 7 Mb! They would charge a thousand bucks a month out here for that! Like you said, I am hoping 384Kb will meet my needs. I just don't want web pages with graphics to take minutes on end to load and I want to watch some videos. If I mess with Stiletto and wifi that will be a bonus really.
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