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Old 11-13-2006, 07:31 AM   #1
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I looked around but could not find info on this. Is it possible to pause or even rewinding the buffer while listening in WIFI mode (no Sat)?
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I looked around but could not find info on this. Is it possible to pause or even rewinding the buffer while listening in WIFI mode (no Sat)?
No pause or rewind while playing Wifi. There is also no recording in Wifi. The only thing you can do in Wifi is MUTE!
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No pause or rewind while playing Wifi. There is also no recording in Wifi. The only thing you can do in Wifi is MUTE!
Thx. Well this really stinks. So basicly the WIFI option is nothing more then useing Sirius.Com on a PC in a portable package. So for a person that has a PC or laptop in the spots where the majority of listing takes place then the new unit doesn't bring much to the table.
I'm really on the fence about this unit.
The Cons:
No Artist /Song notification (a true favorate item to me )
Weak FM Modulation
No recording /pausing/rewinding while indoors with WIFI mode
Not much good live reception with out use of bulky headphones
Another Subscription , or replace current unit that offers Artist/Song search which is a big item to me as far as Sat radio goes.

Pros:
Poratbility
Live Recording

I donno going from a (simi protable) Starmate Replay to a Stelletto is a hard issue to figure out by Christmas Considering loosing the favorate feature and having to buy new docking stations and such.. Hmmm.
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It all depends on how you use the device. I don't just sit at my desk where I have a notebook or desktop, so for me moving around from office to office in a wifi environment it works GREAT.

Song/Artist seek is the reason XM is being sued and in the end, they will more than likely remove this feature from future tuners that can record.

FM mod, some says its great, some say it isn't... so that is a wash.

Using the heaphone/antenna is a necessity with both services for me because without it I can forget any reception at all.

I always loved the song/artist seek, but you know since the S50 I haven't had it and I honestly don't miss it. Heck I just record those songs and/or artist, I can listen to them anytime I want.

Wifi is to give you another listening opportunity when you can't pick up live reception. This has totally sold me on this unit and I use it in this manner every day during the week. I've also used it at coffee shops, cafe's and sandwich shops in my town. So, I love it. Can't promise you'll have the same results in your town, but it works for me.

I think SIRIUS did the right then in removing this feature to stay out of the legal fray.
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It would be nice if they at least added FF, RW, and pausing of WIFI. They could disable the LOVE button easily enough.
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It would be nice if they at least added FF, RW, and pausing of WIFI. They could disable the LOVE button easily enough.
my only gripe with the current Sirius over internet via Sirius player is when I walk away from my desk I can't pause the Stern show to come back to it later. So thats why I bring my Starmate replay from my car each day and have the antenna by the window to listen and pause the show. Soon they will move me away from window and I'll be back to internet listening again so looks like even with the Stiletto I will not have the pause to protect me against daily interruptions like talking to co-workers or going to get coffee or meetings (places that even bringing the unit with me is not a wise option). hmm.
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I see no reason why they can't allow the pause and rewind. I can however see why they won't allow songs to be loved or even recording especially if eventually they bring the bitrate up to 128kb. You could basically save music at almost the same bitrate as some are selling them on the internet for.

Perhaps as bone with future updates they will give this ability, but I am certainly not going to book on it.
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The problem is that you can't actually pause live WMP streams, just broadcasted feeds. If anybody knows how to pause a live stream, tell me, but logically not even Microsoft has vouched to implement this feature in their own program.
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But in all reality the streaming isn't paused.... the audio is simply buffered and this allows you to fast forward or rewind it. So, I see no technical reason why it can't be done. You can't pause a satellite stream either, but you can buffer the audio and that is all the replay feature does.
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There is probably some definition that defines rebroadcasting as something other than propagation delays.

We know they cannot/ not allowed to re-broadcast the signal. Storing/buffering even a second then replaying probably is defined by the FCC as a re-broadcast.

If its just a delay because of the length of time it takes for the signal to reach the radio is not a re-broadcast. That's the propagation delay.
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So the bottom line is that the Stiletto brings nothing more to the table in WIFI mode then Sirius.Com player if you TAKE OUT the portability of the unit from the equation. Correct?
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So the bottom line is that the Stiletto brings nothing more to the table in WIFI mode then Sirius.Com player if you TAKE OUT the portability of the unit from the equation. Correct?
Yes. At least it allows me to listen while walking around my property/house/cutting grass. Sure beats lugging my laptop around!

I know you said TAKE OUT portability, but honestly one of the main benefits of Wifi is having the ability to get Sirius where a satellite signal doesn't exist. Portability is also a huge benefit.

Besides, who knows what Zing/Sirius have planned for future updates. Maybe Wifi will allow pausing/recording/loving/128 streaming. Only time will tell...anything's possible.

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Besides, who knows what Zing/Sirius have planned for future updates. Maybe Wifi will allow pausing/recording/loving/128 streaming. Only time will tell...anything's possible.
I think if those options existed on the current player I would run out and get myself one ASAP. At this point as much as I love gadgets and new stuff , to trade my current setup for a $350 unit and have to buy new home and car kits isn't the best option after I factor in that I will loose my favorite features (Artest Alerts, 50 min Buffer, pause, rew, FF, Names of artist and Songs on screen and browse) while inside. So close and yet so far.
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