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Old 11-26-2006, 11:34 PM   #16
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I have to ask the big question of next year.
Is Sirius putting up a new satellite?
I believe I heard something about an even better more advanced design getting set up for the next year.
Does anyone know anything about this? Is it true?
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Old 11-27-2006, 12:01 AM   #17
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But to claim it being a live portable is questionable at best. However, if you are in a sat area the signal strength is ridiculous.
Isn't it strange how folks expereinces vary so much. Your experience with your Stiletto isn't anything like mine. I don't get full signal, but I don't get constant drop-outs either and have used it for 6 weeks now as a "LIVE" portable. I never expected it to be flawless, the reason why is I have a Pioneer Inno and I don't get perfect reception with it either. In fact around my home the Inno actually doesn't get as good reception.

From my experience the Stiletto is indeed a "LIVE" portable, no question or doubt about it. Some of you think the only thing that makes one of these devices a portable is it providing "LIVE" reception but I think for many of us that isn't true.
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:15 AM   #18
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Isn't it strange how folks expereinces vary so much. Your experience with your Stiletto isn't anything like mine. I don't get full signal, but I don't get constant drop-outs either and have used it for 6 weeks now as a "LIVE" portable. I never expected it to be flawless, the reason why is I have a Pioneer Inno and I don't get perfect reception with it either. In fact around my home the Inno actually doesn't get as good reception.

From my experience the Stiletto is indeed a "LIVE" portable, no question or doubt about it. Some of you think the only thing that makes one of these devices a portable is it providing "LIVE" reception but I think for many of us that isn't true.
That is interesting to hear. Since I am in Ohio it could be the position of the sats here in relation to you. Next time I am out and about I will snap some pics of the 2's signal strength. I will say that in the car the signal strength is unmatched to the S50's strength. I like the new dot micro thats all black. Doesnt stick out screaming to everyone "I have Sirius, come check out my car to take it"

Like you said. It is interesting to hear everyone's experiences.
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:27 AM   #19
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Like you said. It is interesting to hear everyone's experiences.
It really is and I am just curious why the experiences would be so different from one area to another. I think it is as you said because of where the sats are aligned with where we are geographically.

Overall I think we all wish we had repeaters and flawless reception inside/around our homes and cities. that would rock... I honestly think they do need a better headphone/antenna setup. It appears that the Belkin for XM does indeed provide a better signal and I say that even though my Stiletto version works very well for me.

I can't help but wonder if the antenna they used on this thing is just crappy?
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It really is and I am just curious why the experiences would be so different from one area to another. I think it is as you said because of where the sats are aligned with where we are geographically.

Overall I think we all wish we had repeaters and flawless reception inside/around our homes and cities. that would rock...
I have noticed this varying reception opinions as well. Noticed alot of people with great reception in California. I basically am in the same geographic (midwest) as musicguy is and have similar things occurring. I can be outside in the yard and get descent recetion one place, then dropouts two feet away. Come inside and sometimes I get a signal in the house and sometimes and in some areas I do not. For instance in a room with windows and skylights I sometimes get nothing. But stand in the interior hall and I get a constant signal. I am right on the fringe of the repeaters here in Indy. But it seems to me in watching the signal meters that it will not use reception from both sat and repeaters both. it is almost an audible (drop out) change over from when there is a sat signal to a ter signal. is this true?


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I honestly think they do need a better headphone/antenna setup. It appears that the Belkin for XM does indeed provide a better signal and I say that even though my Stiletto version works very well for me.

I can't help but wonder if the antenna they used on this thing is just crappy?
Amen brother, a-freaking-men! But what I hope is that they resolve it with either firmware (if possible) or better antenna headphones. But just like everything else, they will probably just leave this generation of stilettos alone and make a "new and improved" model with better reception leaving us with a very expensive plug and play.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:11 AM   #21
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But what I hope is that they resolve it with either firmware (if possible) or better antenna headphones. But just like everything else, they will probably just leave this generation of stilettos alone and make a "new and improved" model with better reception leaving us with a very expensive plug and play.
One can indeed hope, but I have to say I do not share your opinion that as it is even now we basically have nothing but an expensive plug and play. The Stiletto have given me freedom unlike any device I've own in regards to Sat Radio. I guess if portability in some folks mind is just about "LIVE" reception alone then you maybe right. However, I don't think the bulk of us look at it that way. I've never had a tuner that no matter which of my 7 offices I am in, allows me to listen to Sat Radio via wifi, where as before it was the iPod, lugging a notebook around or nothing. I've used it a coffee shops, restaurants, deli's and it has worked great. I have also used it on the go for "LIVE" reception but always using the included antenna/headphones. Reception is far from perfect, but I have the same experience with my Pioneer Inno. Then there is the recorded radio replays and recorded content... This allows me to use this thing when no internet and no sat reception is possible.... ON the go and portable. "LIVE" reception isn't the only factor that makes it portable and I knew full well before buying this device that "LIVE" reception would be to some degree hit or miss.

I do understand that some folks assumed reception would be just like having a car antenna on your head and maybe they are right. I just never expected it and it appears my lower expectations has allowed me to enjoy this device much, much more.

It has been worth every penny I've paid.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:49 AM   #22
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And despite my grief I am giving these boards, I do agree with alot of what you say there. but remember, at least for now, I am dealing with the SL10. I LOVE the idea of a TRUE grab and go plug and play. We do not have Sirius in my wifes car and I would always have to rig stuff up to take mine (long story). But this not only gives us that option, but also the recording ability. And yes, at times true live portable reception. Yes that is the #1 attraction of his thing I think, so that is why I and others are a bit bummed. I want to listen while working in the yard for example.
I will say though that for my tight ass to spend $250-350 for one of these things speaks volumes. It is addicting, and has so much potential.
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GB33, in my opinion technology wise we are just not at the place where you'll ever have a portable "LIVE" device like this that works in every situation. XM has a bit better situation due to the much larger repeater network, but considering that I am in an area not served by a repeater for either service it is really much more difficult in terms of reception for both.

What is strange is that I have actually worked out in my hard with my Stiletto.. mowing, raking leaves and even decorating for Christmas and while it worked it was not perfect and that also reflects my experience using my Pioneer Inno in that same situation. So, this is why I feel it is just the nature of the beast for where we are technology wise.

By the way I don't feel you are giving us grief, you have a legit concern and issue. It is something that new users really need to know and understand, so that they can make an informed decision. I don't want this forum to just be a place to sugar coat, but actually provide realtime use of these devices.
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I like the Stiletto. I only wish you could enter the channel direct from the bad remote they sent.
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I like the Stiletto. I only wish you could enter the channel direct from the bad remote they sent.
You must be referring to the Soloist? Because I am pretty sure with the home and car docks you can enter channels directly from the remote.
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You must be referring to the Soloist? Because I am pretty sure with the home and car docks you can enter channels directly from the remote.
You can from both. Just hit tune on the remote (next to the - on the volume button) and you can direct tune away. I do this all the time.
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I guess it is all about what your expectations are. Let's just be a little more honest and conclude that this is mobility for some and not for others. It is very selective.

If I am in the car and the stiletto has bad reception, then get a car kit. OK. I can live with that.

If I am indoors and the stiletto has bad reception, then get a home kit. OK. I can live with that as well. WI-FI is no substitute because most of my stations are not music. It is understandable that roofs of all sorts and walls stop signals. That is what external antennas are for whether you speak of FM, AM or satellite.

But, if I am in the middle of a parking lot with the stupid headset/antenna connected, in metro South Florida, with the nearest mountain being the local land fill 10 miles away, no trees, no builings, I EXPECT the darn thing to work. And you know what, it does not.

So sorry to burst you bubble peeps, for some this is not Live mobility. WI-FI is no sustitute. For a large population this is like the S50. Throw me a bone here Sirius. I am willing to shell out the money for the car/home kit, but at least I ask you to make it work out doors. Preferably with the ability to move my head around and not stand like a statue with my head in a 45 degree angle, with my left hand on my head, my right foot touching my car, while my toungue points to the North. I feel like I am still holding the rabbit ears in one position so my dad can watch the nightly news.

For all out there that do not have any issues, God bless you. But for us that it does not work for, and there are a lot of us, we will continue with the sportster and ipod. To wait all this time for a Live receive and not get a true live receiver is bad. If you are not going to be first to markeet at least make somthing that work. Release it with more birds in the air. Put more repeaters. Something. Don't just toss it out there without it working properly and without accessories available for it.

A buddy of mine with the INNO has no such issues, but I still would never switch from my Sirius. I am just venting because, I finally saved up the money to get this and just got down right disappointed.
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First off Welcome. I see this is your first Post.

If you are not getting any reception with the antenna headphones in an open parking lot, I don't think your unit is working or there is some issue.

My thoughts are try again another time of day. Maybe the sunspots were causing some unexplained blockage.

No really maybe your unit is bad.

If you are near a repeater you can get real good reception without the headphones. Normally with the headphones you can get recpeption with the occasional stoppage when walking under trees or other obsticals that may block the signal but it should work.

And if all else fails... use the tin foil as was stated previously. At least you'll get the attention you are obviously looking for with this post.
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To wait all this time for a Live receive and not get a true live receiver is bad. If you are not going to be first to markeet at least make somthing that work. Release it with more birds in the air. Put more repeaters. Something. Don't just toss it out there without it working properly and without accessories available for it.

A buddy of mine with the INNO has no such issues, but I still would never switch from my Sirius. I am just venting because, I finally saved up the money to get this and just got down right disappointed.
See sometimes I feel just like this guy, I am so torn. The in the house reception, I get, I really do, and am surprised that in some rooms at sometimes in the house it still gets a signal. So I am okay, and willing (going) to buy a home kit. But in the car and on my head, come on! if this "antenna" that is on the headphones is really an active antenna, why does it not work very well?! If it is on my dash or hanging on rear view mirror, shouldn't it work just as good as my reg antenna on my dash? Then I could get a universal mount (i.e for an ipod or phone) and hook to tape adapter ot auxilary input. But instead I get dropouts every 20 seconds or every turn I make. Why? And on my head, in the yard which is where I want it the most?! Come on here. But damn the thing is just so cool.
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