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Old 12-29-2006, 01:23 PM   #1
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Question Stiletto home dock attenna question...

first off let me say that getting a SL100 was the best thing since my ipod. i use it 10+ hours a day. at work, in my car, at home...where ever! anyway, my car kit provides me 3 bars of signal (I live in Florida and it was raining shit on Xmas and I still had a constant 3 bars of signal. My house has 3 trees over it and the attenna cord provided with the home kit is 21 feet long (i think). Even though the attenna is in the same spot, it will fluctuate from 1-2 bars of signal and then sometimes totally dropout (annoying). 20 feet of cable isn't long enough to get to my fenced in patio (i was going to put it on one of the posts) or onto my roof. I saw that Best Buy has a 50 foot extension cable and I have gift cards. Has anyone had experience with this attenna? Will it plug directly into my home docking kit? I'm a Sirius nub (seriously), but I'm starting to get the hang of it.

My buddy has already ran out and bought a Stiletto too...he's been rocking the shit out of it.) I see tons of people griping about the stiletto (probably XM tards) but I haven't got one bad thing to say about it.

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I use the 50 ft extension at work to connect a dot micro ( the car antenna) to my home dock that is in my interrier office. It goes over the ceiling tiles over to the window sil so it can point out the window. I have the antenna stuck to a metal bookend.

The instuctions says you can use up to two of these connected together. It works well.

The connection between the end of the antenna and the beginning of the extension has a box that makes it weather tight.

You won't be able to connect it directly to the stiletto, but it should connect just fine to the car dock.
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Look at one of the outdoor antennas, not the folding junk that is included with a home dock, but one of the better mast/wall mount models. I get much better signal strength with the $40 outdoor antenna than I ever could with the little black box. In my case, the outdoor antenna provides better strength INSIDE than the folding box does on the roof.

I also used this at a vacation home by attaching it to a plumbing vent pipe with tie-wraps. When I left I just cut the plastic wrap and removed the antenna.
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Look at one of the outdoor antennas, not the folding junk that is included with a home dock, but one of the better mast/wall mount models. I get much better signal strength with the $40 outdoor antenna than I ever could with the little black box. In my case, the outdoor antenna provides better strength INSIDE than the folding box does on the roof.

I also used this at a vacation home by attaching it to a plumbing vent pipe with tie-wraps. When I left I just cut the plastic wrap and removed the antenna.
The "folding junk" antenna has always worked great for me. Usually I get full strength signal with it. I have never had a need to spend extra money on antenna upgrades. I rely on the direct signal from the satellite where I live. I found in the beginning I had to experiment with placement, and angle of antenna. Once you tune in to that. Then you never have to touch it again. I'm sure where I have it placed now that it is good to go for a long, long time.
 
 
 
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My folding one has been on the garage roof for about a year now. No issues showing 3 bars as we speak. I guess the only issue is it could blow down if the wind really blows hard. It can't go too far it's held by the cord and with the window on it it can only move a few feet. Anyway, it works well but the view is un-obstructed. Maybe those fancy outdoor antennas are good for problem areas.
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The "folding junk" antenna has always worked great for me. Usually I get full strength signal with it. I have never had a need to spend extra money on antenna upgrades. I rely on the direct signal from the satellite where I live. I found in the beginning I had to experiment with placement, and angle of antenna. Once you tune in to that. Then you never have to touch it again. I'm sure where I have it placed now that it is good to go for a long, long time.
That sounds just like me. I placed the "folding junk" on my deck, closed and pointing straight up. I get nothing but 3 bars and perfect reception.
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Maybe it's better now, my experience with the folding unit was in the first batch of S50 home kits, many of us had a problem with them. Sirius gave me a $20 credit on my account to offset the purchase of one of the gray units.

I will try doing a head-to-head comparision of the Stiletto home antenna and the gray outdoor unit tomorrow.
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I went to Best Buy and the extension cord is WAY to thick to run out through my sliding glass door (and out to my wooden fence posts). It's like the size of a ethernet cord. I was thinking of getting one of the mounted deals but i'm wondering how thick the cord is on that one too. I can't think of anyway to get this working in doors. I live in Sarasota, FL. We have repeaters in the area but they don't appear to be active b/c I get no terrestrial signal whatsoever. I'm not upset...I just want to be able to record "Gone Phishing" without dropouts. *sigh* I tried placing it all over inside my house (and of course outside too) with very little luck. Sometimes there will be two bars...nothing moves in my house or anything and it will fluctuate to one bar and then "Acquiring Signal" pops up. I even took my car kit antenna and attached it to my fridge with no luck whatsoever (it was worth a shot, right? heh). I think I might run down to Best Buy tomorrow and buy it anyway and run the extension plug all the way to the sliding glass door and then I'll have the smaller cable (21") to run up on to my roof. I'd be happy with a constant 2 bars. 3 signal bars and I'd be ecstatic. Thanks for all the tips...this forum rocks.
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I went to Best Buy and the extension cord is WAY to thick to run out through my sliding glass door (and out to my wooden fence posts). It's like the size of a ethernet cord. I was thinking of getting one of the mounted deals but i'm wondering how thick the cord is on that one too. I can't think of anyway to get this working in doors. I live in Sarasota, FL. We have repeaters in the area but they don't appear to be active b/c I get no terrestrial signal whatsoever. I'm not upset...I just want to be able to record "Gone Phishing" without dropouts. *sigh* I tried placing it all over inside my house (and of course outside too) with very little luck. Sometimes there will be two bars...nothing moves in my house or anything and it will fluctuate to one bar and then "Acquiring Signal" pops up. I even took my car kit antenna and attached it to my fridge with no luck whatsoever (it was worth a shot, right? heh). I think I might run down to Best Buy tomorrow and buy it anyway and run the extension plug all the way to the sliding glass door and then I'll have the smaller cable (21") to run up on to my roof. I'd be happy with a constant 2 bars. 3 signal bars and I'd be ecstatic. Thanks for all the tips...this forum rocks.
Have you considered drilling a hole in the wall. Place it out of plain view site. It will look more professional than going thru sliding glass door. I use the standard antenna. To use as an example. I ran my cable thru the already existing hole in my wall that has the cable tv. So I did not need to drill a new hole. If you do drill new hole. Be sure first you can get a signal at your desired antenna placement location. Or maybe placing the radio at different location to allow for extra antenna cord.
 
 
 
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My folding one has been on the garage roof for about a year now. No issues showing 3 bars as we speak. I guess the only issue is it could blow down if the wind really blows hard. It can't go too far it's held by the cord and with the window on it it can only move a few feet. Anyway, it works well but the view is un-obstructed. Maybe those fancy outdoor antennas are good for problem areas.
My folding antenna is basically hanging on the gutter. The pivot part is touching the top of one side of the gutter. With the main antenna face pointing straight up. It is not tied or anything to the gutter. Earlier this week we had unusual 60-70mph winds. These winds lasted for at least three hours straight. The antenna never moved at all. Very impressive. I guess you could say it passed my wind test!

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I'm currently renting so i'm looking to half ass it until my lease is up. I can hide all of the wires (except for like 2 feet of it).
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I just really wish I could be able to record stern before work...that would be sweet...I can deal without Robins news :P
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[QUOTE=idioso]I think I might run down to Best Buy tomorrow and buy it anyway and run the extension plug all the way to the sliding glass door and then I'll have the smaller cable (21") to run up on to my roof.
Sounds like then this is really your only option in this case. If you really want Howard recordings. Then go for it. You only live once in this satellite listening form. Edit- oops. That not display the way I wanted it to.

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Thumbs up Buy the Sirius CATV Home Distribution Kit

I just installed a Sirius CATV Home Distribution Kit, Part # 14250.



This antenna kit allows you to use your existing cable TV wiring to carry the Sirius satellite signal. Install the antenna on the roof, wall, mast, etc, run a coax wire to your cable TV entry point, install one of the included diplexers, and install the other diplexer at the TV location where your Sirius receiver is. You'll get the best reception, and the flexibility to move the receiver anywhere in the house where you have a CATV line.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-s8WyxeO...atv&i=60714250

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Edit - Here are the pictures of my install. The instructions included with the antenna are very good. One point to remember... The larger diplexer MUST be installed on the receiver end.
Everything you need is included in the kit, except the RG6 coax cable.



A few years ago, I ran two RG6 coax cables to the roof, in case I ever installed satellite TV. The cables went from the roof to the basement. So I just used one of these cables for the Sirius antenna, and terminated the unused one. The total cable run is about 100', and the limit is about 150'. The ground wire goes directly to my electric service ground. The following was purchased from Radio Shack:
Weather-Resistant Coax Boot, Part #: 278-1658, Cost: .99 (qty 2)
Dual Lead-In Grounding Block, Part #: 15-920, Cost: 3.99


In the picture below, the top splitter is the original cable TV splitter that split the cable TV for two rooms. On the bottom is the new Sirius diplexer, which combines the signal from the Sirius antenna with the CATV signal and sends them both over the same cable to room 1.


Detailed view of the cable TV splitter and the Sirius diplexer.


In room 1 where the Sirius radio is located, the single cable comes up from the diplexer in the basement, into this diplexer (remember to use the LARGER diplexer here). The signals are then split off to the TV and the Sirius home dock.


The black wire is the Sirius SMB cable, which is included with the antenna. Both ends on the SMB cable and the diplexer are male ends, so I just made up a short piece of coax to connect both together. You could just buy an adapter, but I wanted to get this done, and had the supplies to make the cable.


The final result...Near perfect satellite signal!
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After reading posts I just installed a Directed fixed outdoor antenna model #14240 thinking that it would offer better signal strength, but to my wallets dismay the folding antenna model #14215 mounted side by side on my roof and pointed in the same direction receives a much stronger signal. The fixed mount drops signal and with a quick cable swap on my home dock, presto I have Sirius again!
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