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Old 02-22-2007, 10:37 PM   #91
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A car dock would be better with all of the presets but the damn Stiletto goes to sleep with out external power when its in any dock .
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:52 AM   #92
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Hey all, I just wanted to let you all know that I'm currently working on making an antenna adapter that you can plug into the bottom of the stiletto and connect any Sirius antenna to it. Then you would only need your power source to get a strong signal, no home dock or car dock necessary. I plan on testing this tonight and I will let you know the results. If it works, I will post directions on how to make it.

Thanks, Jason
If you know how to use soldering iron and have a spare earbuds to sacrifice, you can convert extremely uncomfortable Stiletto
antenna headphones to a satellite signal receiving earbuds.

You will need small flathead and small philips screwdrivers and soldering iron.

First you need to remove 2.5 inch outside panels on each side of the earphone assembly (the ones with Sirius logo and L & R designation)
Insert small flathead screwdriver right under R and L and peel up. Then peel each panel toward the crown of the headphones until it completely
comes off. Now you can remove each earphone and free the wires tucked inside each arm.

Next remove the rubber cushion from the bottom of the crown assembly. You will see 2 small philips screwdrivers. Remove them and push 2 snaps
toward outside edge. At this point the whole thing should come apart and expose satellite antenna tucked inside.

From that point all you need to do is unsolder wires for old headphones, solder the new earbuds (observe the polarity) and reassemble the whole thing.
The only drawback is you have to decide how to free antenna wire that goes through one of the old headphone assemblies. You can sacrifice
that assembly, or you can unsolder antenna wire, slide old headphone assembly of the wire and then resolder antenna wire back to the antenna.

The last decision is whether you want to keep old arms or snap them off completely. Personally, I would keep them - it allows you to wear the antenna
over the bike helmet or just hang it around your neck. If you don't feel like you need them - get rid of them. That's all, folks!!!!!

P.S. It is a little on a ridiculous side that original headphones cause you to experience excruciating pain while wering them.
Or that aftermarket has not come with a better solution. Sounds like a sure money-making opportunity.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:21 AM   #93
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That works fine for new headphones and has been done here but the antenna adaptor we need is also so you can use a different type of antenna for better reception also. I need a way to use the car type magnetic antenna
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:21 PM   #94
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If you know how to use soldering iron and have a spare earbuds to sacrifice, you can convert extremely uncomfortable Stiletto
antenna headphones to a satellite signal receiving earbuds.

You will need small flathead and small philips screwdrivers and soldering iron.

First you need to remove 2.5 inch outside panels on each side of the earphone assembly (the ones with Sirius logo and L & R designation)
Insert small flathead screwdriver right under R and L and peel up. Then peel each panel toward the crown of the headphones until it completely
comes off. Now you can remove each earphone and free the wires tucked inside each arm.

Next remove the rubber cushion from the bottom of the crown assembly. You will see 2 small philips screwdrivers. Remove them and push 2 snaps
toward outside edge. At this point the whole thing should come apart and expose satellite antenna tucked inside.

From that point all you need to do is unsolder wires for old headphones, solder the new earbuds (observe the polarity) and reassemble the whole thing.
The only drawback is you have to decide how to free antenna wire that goes through one of the old headphone assemblies. You can sacrifice
that assembly, or you can unsolder antenna wire, slide old headphone assembly of the wire and then resolder antenna wire back to the antenna.

The last decision is whether you want to keep old arms or snap them off completely. Personally, I would keep them - it allows you to wear the antenna
over the bike helmet or just hang it around your neck. If you don't feel like you need them - get rid of them. That's all, folks!!!!!

P.S. It is a little on a ridiculous side that original headphones cause you to experience excruciating pain while wering them.
Or that aftermarket has not come with a better solution. Sounds like a sure money-making opportunity.
Been there, done that, documented it for all the Backstage members, please see here http://www.siriusbackstage.com/forum...ad.php?t=93161

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Old 02-25-2007, 05:52 PM   #95
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Hrmm.. this looks neat. This is what the antenna headphone connector looks like unsheathed.




Now, what's going on there. As I believe has been mentioned before, there are four connections going on here. You have Left, Right, Coax Tip, Coax Ground. There also are what looks like two resistors on the board, but it's very difficult to follow what they tie into.

So I figure, ok.. let's just rip everything out and just do an antenna connector. And so I soldered in a connector. Cool, it works. Hooked up my home antenna, and got a complete signal.



So, I figured, well, I've already butchered it this far, why not see what I can do about making a decent connector and hooking up the headphones again. This really wasn't necessary, because you can still connect in any headphones you want in the audio connector on the bottom. But I figured, maybe I wanted to have the headphones available again in case in a future firmware update they shut off the audio port when the headphones are connected. (I figure this is possible since they shut off the internal antenna when they are connected, why not the audio too?) So, a few solders later, and I have this:






So, now I can hook up any headphones, any antenna, including the antenna headphones that came with the unit. How much did this cost? Well, not a dime for me, but it may cost you some dough. Here's what I used:

1. Extra XM antenna which I cut the SMB connector off (the Pink connector)
2. Extra 3.5mm audio connector (the blue connector, this came from a set of Harmon Kardon speakers I wasn't using.)
3. Dock SMB connector (this came from an old Xact car dock I had laying around)
4. 3.5mm audio jack (This was ripped out of an old Soundblaster card I had laying around.
5. various bits of black, red and ground wire. Every hobby kit should have some of this.
6. Electrical tape and heat shrink tubing.
7. soldering iron and silver rosin core solder.
8. Some plastic epoxy to put the connector sheating back together.

Total time to complete: about 4 hours.

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I wonder if that dock connector is a source-able part? I know the SMB and FAKRA stuff is. I'd also be interested to find out how well the TampaxXT antenna works compared to the antenna headset.

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What is the trick to opening up the antenna sheath? Once you open it up, is it destroyed or can it be put back together.


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The connector there is two part. There is an outer sheath that you can pry apart. It consists of two halves, and a push button (with spring) that controls the clips that click the connector into the Stiletto. This one remains pretty much undamaged, but it originally is epoxied together as halves, and must later be epoxied back together. Then, there is a rubber sheath that surround the circuit board and the wiring. This sheath must be cut apart to get to the circuit, and in the process you pretty much destroy it, and if you are careful enough, you don't destroy the wire. It is VERY difficult to not separate the wire from the circuit though. The red and black audio wires are VERY small diameter wire (total of 5 twisted strands from my count), so it is very easy to break them or cut into them when cutting away the sheath. Basically, unless you have plans of following through all the way, I wouldn't go cutting into this thing.
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you DA man JOKER !
As soon as i find my soldering iron.....
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I AM IMPRESSED .... YOU DA MAN !! Whats it going to cost me to get one of those . You can have my head phones and I`ll supply a xm car dock for the antenna plug to any one who is willing to make one up for me , which I will pay for naturally . This is great I feel 100% better about my Stiletto now

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Old 02-25-2007, 09:23 PM   #101
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I wonder if that dock connector is a source-able part? I know the SMB and FAKRA stuff is.
Sure, it's just SMB female on some coax. Everything I have used should be purchaseable somewhere.
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Sure, it's just SMB female on some coax. Everything I have used should be purchaseable somewhere.
I meant the plug into the Stiletto.....

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Highly doubt the dock connector is available separately. If they were, wouldn't you think the replacement headphones would be too?
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I think the headphones aren't available separately because people talk crap about them so often that SIrius doesn't see the point.

But I'd think maybe Amp, Amphenol, etc. made the connector and it'd be available.. The possibility is there. If not, maybe it'd be worthwhile to get some made.

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Well, then there is the other issue of the circuit itself. Not sure you are going to find that premade.
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