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Old 01-20-2007, 11:34 AM   #1
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I think this has been answered in past threads, but what is everyone's success or lack of success with the stiletto getting on to Wifi at airports and hotels. Over the past few months I've tried getting on to several Wifi points around the country (Chicago, Cleveland, Phoenix, Denver) without success. It usually identifies a free Wifi system without a required logon, appears to sign on but then I get a "no connection available" message. My stiletto works perfectly at home and local library wifi systems.
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Old 01-20-2007, 12:18 PM   #2
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Ft Lauderdale -- works perfectly
Charolette NC -- authentication required (read: it won't work)
Roanoke VA -- works perfectly
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Old 01-20-2007, 12:23 PM   #3
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Yeah, I've tried using the Wifi feature at some free "hotspots" around my area and I've never been able to listen to anything either. If it connects it always gives me the same message you mentioned (something about connection to this channel unavailable). What's up? Is there a secret to getting the Wifi feature to actually work and play channels? I haven't figured it out yet either. I thought it would work in most any "hot spot"/"free wifi" place, but it doesn't seem to. Maybe it's only good for home wireless networks or something.
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:17 PM   #4
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I think a lot of free hot spots run trough proxy servers.?
AFAIK Stiletto doesn't do proxies... Maybe some day?
I seem to have better luck with wifi at cheapo mom and pop hotels than the big chains.
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:08 PM   #5
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I was in Miami International today and it let me connect via WiFi but no sound ever came through.
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Old 01-23-2007, 03:48 AM   #6
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I have never tried at Airports, but there are a couple of hotels that I've had some luck with Hamton Inn and Holiday Inn Express, but living in a small rural town has its advantages in that the business are slow to upgrade to higher security. McDonald's, Schlotzkies, Bowling Center, Coffee Shops (2) even a local Kinko's Fedex has wifi that allowed me to connect and listen to SIRIUS. Kinko's, Bowling Center and Schlotzkies required a password which they promptly gave me when I asked for it. The others were totally open, but was so strange was the second I walked out of their building the signal dropped to nothing, so they have the antennas setup just right not to allow folks to go park in front of their buildings to get free access to internet.
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Has anyone tried to spoof their mac adress on their computer to mimic the stiletto. This may allow you to get past the authentication screen at the free hotspots, and then turn off the computer and turn on the stiletto to the same mac address.
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Has anyone tried to spoof their mac adress on their computer to mimic the stiletto. This may allow you to get past the authentication screen at the free hotspots, and then turn off the computer and turn on the stiletto to the same mac address.
Hey OBK, I know it has been suggested, but I know of no one that has tried it. I personally wouldn't know how to do it. If someone can suggest how this is done, next time I am in a hotel that this is the situation I will certainly give it a try.

One wired hotel I stayed in I had to go to the proxy screen and I went through all that process on my laptop. But then I had a little wireless access point with me and I figured there was no way in hell it would work. Low and behold I was actually able to not only get on with my notebook, but with my Stiletto too. I assume this is because I was buying time for 24 hours and they didn't care about the mac address as there was connections on each bed stand and the desk. (This was Radison Hotel where they don't provide FREE Internet Access.)
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:07 PM   #9
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MAC Spoofing would definitely work to get past the auth screen.

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I've still never had any luck with any "hotspots" and have never gotten the Stiletto to play audio through the internet connection. I really think this function is pretty useless unless you are really computer savvy.

All I know is that with my son's laptop computer, all I have to do is go to a hotspot (restaurant/motel, etc.) that has free wireless and it recognizes it and connects to the internet immediately. I assumed the Stiletto would work the same way, but it obviously does not. Why couldn't Sirius just design the Stiletto to where it would connect just as easily as a laptop does when at a WiFi spot? What's the difference? Not being that great with the technical aspects of WiFi and networks, I don't understand what the difference is?

All I know is that for the average computer user who is not really that technically oriented, it is pretty much useless. As I said earlier, I guess it's main function was for people with home wireless routers. I assumed when I read "WiFi" that it's main purpose was for using the radio at hotspots like you do a laptop. Guess I was wrong. I think Sirius should either improve this functioning, or be more upfront about the products limitations in their advertising.
(Heck, even my son's Sony PSP connects to free WiFi much more easily than this thing. I just don't understand the problem or why the Stiletto is different).

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BRH -

It depends on the region. For instance here, we have hotspots in many local and nationally owned chains and it works just like you describe.

However, some hotspots require you to 'log in' or 'accept an agreement' first. The Stiletto would really need a thin web browser to deal with this, or have special software installed to work with the majority of them *802.1X authentication*. The latter is pretty easy to do and would support AT&T Hotspots and T-mobile Hotspots.

Putting a web browser in the Stiletto isn't trivial. There isn't a defined standard for the contents of those pages, so there's no easy way to parse them.

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Droo, they have wifi way up there.
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there is a program called SMAC that is used to change the mac address that the router will see. I have used it, but have not tried it to get the stiletto online at a free hotspot.
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As long as the hotspot uses MAC identification after you authenticate it should work.
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Droo, they have wifi way up there.
Course they do.. I'm an IT Contractor in the wireless net sector amongst other places..

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