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Old 07-28-2005, 01:03 PM   #1
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well, I am currently looking to leave a job I just started to go for another job that pays more money, after all money makes the world go round, I feel that it is ok for me to do this tricky move because I am young, single, no wife, no mortgage, no kids, no pets, and I am just supporting myself. I feel that if you aren't happy with your current job, current salary, current wife, current car, current house, then change it!!! If things do turn out ok, then I will be making more money which should make me happy, but then I thought about all those millionaires out there that have more money than they know what to do with and they NEVER seem happy or they are depressed, get divorced, do stupid shit that lands them in jail or worse steal satellite tv (nice move OJ), what are your thoughts????
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:14 PM   #2
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You should stay at your current job while you look for a new job. Another thing to keep in mind is if a potential employer sees that you change jobs on a whim, they aren't going to hire you. You'd better have something good to tell them when they ask why you left your current job so soon.
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:43 PM   #3
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I firmly believe in the "do what you love, the money will follow" philosophy.

Below is an excerpt from a Fool.com interview with Warran Buffett. I think it's pretty powerful.

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I really knew I was rich when I had $10,000. I knew along time ago that I was going to be doing something I loved doing with people that I loved doing it with. In 1958, I had my dad take me out of the will, as I knew I would be rich anyway. I let my two sisters have all the estate.

I bet we all in this room live about the same. We eat about the same and sleep about the same. We pretty much drive a car for 10 years. All this stuff doesn't make it any different. I will watch the Super Bowl on a big screen television just like you. We are living the same life. I have two luxuries: I get to do what I want to do every day and I get to travel a lot faster than you.

You should do the job you love whether or not you are getting paid for it. Do the job you love. Know that the money you will follow. I travel distances better than you do. The plane is nicer. But that is about the only thing that I do a whole lot different.

I didn't know my salary when I went to work for Graham until I got his first paycheck. Do what you love and don't even think about the money. I will take a trip on Paul Allen's Octopus ($400M yacht), but wouldn't want one for myself. A 60 man crew is needed. They could be stealing, sleeping with each other, etc. Professional sports teams are a hassle, especially when you have as much money as him. Fans would complain that you aren't spending enough when the team loses.

If there is a place that is warm in the winter and cool in the summer, and you do what you love doing, you will do fine. You're rich if you are working around people you like. You will make money if you are energetic and intelligent. This society lets smart people with drive earn a very good living. You will be no exception.
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I don't have to put my current job on my resume since I just started, plus I'm in college still, most employers understand that a college kid, will not be employed full time while in college, many people have left out certain jobs on their resume for many reasons.
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Hey SiriusBattle, I'm assuming you currently have the 2nd job right?

Bottom line here is that you are early enough in your career that you can survive switching jobs like this... But always remember that its not just the money that you care about at this stage - its the building of a skillset and reputation that will earn you bigger bucks as you progress in a career that you actually love..

Bringing in lots of money isnt a bad thing... But striving only for that at the cost of being unhappy (in your career, in your personal life, etc) is bad...

Like Warren Buffett (& Jeff) said up above

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Old 07-28-2005, 08:10 PM   #7
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Well, that's easy for Warren to say...he's rich. And full of shit. True happiness can only come from within. No one and nothing can make you happy - only you can. Some of the happiest people on earth eat bugs and sleep on the dirt in the jungle.
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Money is a part of the equation. remeber time is money so if you are workingmore hours--it should be worth it to you on many levels. Happiness is always important. When single, you have fewer obligations perhaps. When with kids however be careful not to teach them by word or example that money rules your life.

Jobs ae important. Takes not only money into account but satisfaction about what you do!

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I dont think what Warren was saying contradicts what you are saying...

He basically says that as long as you do what you love to do, the money is secondary...

If you eat bugs and sleep in dirt, chances are you really dont care about money. And if you think money alone will make you happy, then speak to all the unhappy rich folk or all the lottery winners who wish they'd never won...

Its all about balance in your life...

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Um, change your wife? I'm still of the old school don't get married unless you plan on working on that marriage to make it last. I'm not against divorce, but I really believe you should take every action possible to make that marriage work before throwing in the towel. Of course, it's a whole different ball game if someone's cheating or abuse is involved. Then I'd say get the heck outta there.
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I am being offered a job as a personal assistant/secretary for someone who runs an IT buisness. I would be making more money than I would be making at mycurrent job but the only reason I'm afraid of the change is that I hate the idea of leaving a perfectly secure job for one that could be cut from a budget. He assures me that it is not an expendable position and one he needs filled and that he thinks we would work well together.... But for some reason I am justafraid to do it. I would love the job, I just have that damn responsible side of my brain that says "hey, you have bills.. what if it isn't as guaranteed as you think"

I would be making more per hour, driving a company car and working in a more modern enviroment..... I would love it.

Now on the comment about changing the wife.. I admit that I think marriage is deffinately something you should work at and only get married if you plan on taking it seriously, but I have a friend that is just miserable in his marriage and it's to the point that he is cheating on her... in that instance I believe that it would be better to be honest and accept that the marriage isn't healthy rather than sneak around and disrespect his wife.
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td,

here are some thoughts.

first, how hard would it be to replace your current job with another one, at similar pay rates ?

going into business for myself, without the assurance of a consistent paycheck was certainly scary, but for me it turned out to be a wonderful step, because i am now financially independent.

so if you really like this new job, continue giving it some thought. i know it took me quite awhile before i "took the chance".
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Well, with experience as a dispatcher I could get on at any fire or police dept because a dispatcher with experience is golden these days as far as hiring goes... But I would have to start over again with regards to seniority and my PERF funds.

I'm still on the wall as to what to do...
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It is easy to say that money isn't everything when you are comfortable. By comfortable, I mean having food in your stomach, clothes on your back and a roof over your head.

Certainly having a job/ career that you love makes things easier but that isn't the reality for many people.
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