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Old 02-03-2006, 11:40 AM   #421
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You are contstructing it in your mind. And wondering what it would be like.
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it's comeplete FICTION!!

Although some scientists believe our universe is just a big gas balloon and there are others.
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The password is "big bang theory"
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There are much more ancient rituals than the bible. The book of the dead for instance. The bible doesn't scare me, nor the Koran. Government control fetish Liberals scare me.
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We have already contructed models of hyper dimentional objects. Not to mention we understand they are there. We predict them so in essence we are not like the flatlanders. But I won't argue there could be "objects" in the universe we could never fully detect. Or perhaps we would invent a way. Like x-rays and microwaves and radio waves. We knew these things existed before we could prove it. Thats all I am saying, an insect does not have the capacity to comprehend it's existance. And an omeba isn't even consicous in a sense. Currently our brian is severaly underutilized so on an evolutional scale I would bet we could understand the entire knowledge of the universe if god was to come down and say he Bob, here you go bro. It's a flight of fantasy perhaps but genetically i think we have the goods and if not I think the next brain initiated genetic mutation will.
no, we have not constructed models of hyper dimensional objects. everything we have constructed is 3-dimensional. i have seen a program talking about a 3-dimensional shadow that the 4-dimensional object would make. but so what ?

none of us have any iota of what a 4th dimension would actually be like. not einstein, planck, newton, galileo, or any one else you might care to mention. we are as clueless about a 4th spatial dimension as flatlanders are about volume.

that doesnt mean that flatlanders could not be smart enough to wonder whether more dimensions exist - they simply would not ever be able to actually picture what volume looks like. the amoeba, simply by existing in this universe, knows more about this universe than we do about the super-universe. for we know absolutely NOTHING about what is outside our black box, and never will.

this is why i keep telling amnesia that he can not make any conclusions about something in the super-universe. the best that we can do is to continue to get smarter about our own universe - something i am confident we will continue to do.
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There are much more ancient rituals than the bible. The book of the dead for instance. The bible doesn't scare me, nor the Koran. Government control fetish Liberals scare me.

Wow you like to bring up Liberal in just about any post you can. Good for you jerky!
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this is why i keep telling amnesia that he can not make any conclusions about something in the super-universe.
I'm just trying to get you to agree on what exists in this universe---the one in which we live.

What about prognostication (that is: the ability to see the future)? Is that possible? Is it possible that some of the fortune tellers advertising in the phone book might actually be able to do it?

What about levitation? Can Criss Angel really float?
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this is why i keep telling amnesia that he can not make any conclusions about something in the super-universe.
I'm just trying to get you to agree on what exists in this universe---the one in which we live.

What about prognostication (that is: the ability to see the future)? Is that possible? Is it possible that some of the fortune tellers advertising in the phone book might actually be able to do it?

What about levitation? Can Criss Angel really float?
don't forget the "god" like trick of sawing a woman in half..

can god do that?

can he make a boulder so heavy that he can't lift it?
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this is why i keep telling amnesia that he can not make any conclusions about something in the super-universe.
I'm just trying to get you to agree on what exists in this universe---the one in which we live.

What about prognostication (that is: the ability to see the future)? Is that possible? Is it possible that some of the fortune tellers advertising in the phone book might actually be able to do it?

What about levitation? Can Criss Angel really float?
hi amnesia,

actually, i think we are in pretty much agreement about this universe. no one can see into the future, since we are stuck in this time-oriented universe. that does not mean that god cant see into our future, though. and if he came down to earth in the form of jesus, it would also not mean that jesus cant see our futures.

as far as religious prophecies, the only way that they could have truth is if they were truly given to us by god, since no one of this universe could know.
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this is why i keep telling amnesia that he can not make any conclusions about something in the super-universe.
I'm just trying to get you to agree on what exists in this universe---the one in which we live.

What about prognostication (that is: the ability to see the future)? Is that possible? Is it possible that some of the fortune tellers advertising in the phone book might actually be able to do it?

What about levitation? Can Criss Angel really float?
hi amnesia,

actually, i think we are in pretty much agreement about this universe. no one can see into the future, since we are stuck in this time-oriented universe. that does not mean that god cant see into our future, though. and if he came down to earth in the form of jesus, it would also not mean that jesus cant see our futures.

as far as religious prophecies, the only way that they could have truth is if they were truly given to us by god, since no one of this universe could know.
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this is why i keep telling amnesia that he can not make any conclusions about something in the super-universe.
I'm just trying to get you to agree on what exists in this universe---the one in which we live.

What about prognostication (that is: the ability to see the future)? Is that possible? Is it possible that some of the fortune tellers advertising in the phone book might actually be able to do it?

What about levitation? Can Criss Angel really float?
hi amnesia,

actually, i think we are in pretty much agreement about this universe. no one can see into the future, since we are stuck in this time-oriented universe. that does not mean that god cant see into our future, though. and if he came down to earth in the form of jesus, it would also not mean that jesus cant see our futures.

as far as religious prophecies, the only way that they could have truth is if they were truly given to us by god, since no one of this universe could know.
Try using some of your God given common sense...
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that does not mean that god cant see into our future, though. and if he came down to earth in the form of jesus, it would also not mean that jesus cant see our futures.
So if Criss Angel claims to be a god, then you will believe that he can float?

Or if a fortune teller says that her powers were given to her after she prayed to Jesus, then you'll believe that she can in fact see the future?

I'm just trying to understand why this Jesus guy gets a free pass. He claimed he was a god (or descended from a god or whatever)...but he certainly wasn't the first or the last to make such a claim. So if a Japanese emperor claimed to be able to see the future, then you'd believe him, too? Do you believe all of the self-proclaimed divine? Or is the fact that Jesus's has such a big modern-day following mean that he must have been telling the truth?
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Just wait to see Leonardo davinci CODE. The Chatolic Church made the bigest conspiration ever on earth.

I have an Italian contact next to the vatican and he send me important info about all this.

Wait until the movie.
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/thedavincicode/

I fact LA Monalisa is Leonardo Davinci and in the last dinner appears Mary as apostol.

We are alone with Aliens too, created by USA in 1945 to distract eyes people on the Philadelphia Project that consists to make invisible a Ship in the ocean using magnetic fields.

The Philadelphia Project, USS Eldridge and Project Rainbow -
The Navy admits that the USS Eldridge took part in an experiment that ...
This would render the ship "invisible" to underwater magnetic mines that rely on ...
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that does not mean that god cant see into our future, though. and if he came down to earth in the form of jesus, it would also not mean that jesus cant see our futures.
I'm just trying to understand why this Jesus guy gets a free pass. He claimed he was a god (or descended from a god or whatever)...but he certainly wasn't the first or the last to make such a claim. So if a Japanese emperor claimed to be able to see the future, then you'd believe him, too? Do you believe all of the self-proclaimed divine? Or is the fact that Jesus's has such a big modern-day following mean that he must have been telling the truth?
hi amnesia,

like i have already told you, my christian upbringing does have a lot to do with it. how many other people have claimed this ? i am not being sarcastic - i really dont have any idea.

i would ask the following question of each of said people making the claim - did their life actually emulate the life of jesus ? in other words, did they seem to be head and shoulders above the crowd, in a loving and caring type of way ?

i also have my doubts, as well.
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