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Old 04-22-2006, 09:11 PM   #511
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however, i dont know that i would necessarily agree with god liking the prayee or not, or the prayor or not - just that it has something to do with them or not.
I didn't really mean "like" as in "Bill likes Susie"...just that there's something about them. Perhaps the kid is supposed to grow up to cure cancer...but if that's the case, you would think that the prayer would be irrelevant---that the god was going to save her anyway...
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i see. you were talking more about whether someone has a purpose or not.

well, i cant say i can give you any logical reasoning why some prayers might be answered, and others not - in regards to people being healed from a disease.
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Hey gymeejet,

Every prayer gets answered, It just might not be the answer we were hoping for... :\

Which can be good or bad. I prefer to think about it like this, what God wants comes first, then what we want. What God wants has priority. What God wants might not be what we want, and vis versa.

Everything becomes clear in the end...
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hi semi,

well i agree with you, there. i guess it is just human to try to understand why some things occur. but i guess the best that we can do is just try to be the best person that we can be. nice to hear from you.
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Every prayer gets answered, It just might not be the answer we were hoping for...
And you know this...how?
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Every prayer gets answered, It just might not be the answer we were hoping for...
And you know this...how?
You were a kid once. Didn't you ever ask for anything and not get an answer? Or not get the answer you were looking for?

Little Timmy..."Dad, can I go over Bobby's to play?"
Dad..."Only after you clean your room and feed the dog."

Same thing applies.
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Didn't you ever ask for anything and not get an answer? Or not get the answer you were looking for?
It wasn't the "not getting the answer we were hoping for" part that I was questioning, it was the "every prayer gets answered" part.

That presumes some magical creature listening to/evaluating prayers.
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That presumes some magical creature listening to/evaluating prayers.
That's right. A prayer is only asking God for something. Our life with our parents is much like our life with God...

I know you don't believe in God. That's ok. I'm not going to try and convince you of anything you're not will to believe.
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I'm not going to try and convince you of anything you're not will to believe.
"not willing to believe"?!?!?

You make it sound like I should believe in magic instead of reality and logic. And of course not just all magic, but just the magic that supports your particular flavor of supernatural creatures.
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You make it sound like I should believe in magic instead of reality and logic. And of course not just all magic, but just the magic that supports your particular flavor of supernatural creatures.
What we may think of as magic might be a mere task to someone else.

I cannot debate you on this subject. You are far more intelligent and educated then I. I’m just a simple truck driver…

I will say this, when I have the time, I will make my points. Points you can take into consideration or disregard. I won’t try and be funny, or satirical. Right now I have to get some sleep so I can get up in the morning and drive to fun Nebraska!…
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So, after well over 500 replies of bandwidth hogging debate and counting, have you guys come to a consensus yet? What's the dealio...does the big guy up in the sky exist or is it just one big fairy tail?

My take on this whole discussion is it's about as pointless as engaging in politics...EVERYONE sticks to their beliefs and thinks they know the answer, yet no will ever dare admitting to defeat. And not to mention, you can't actually prove it one way or another...you got no physical evidence. You're ALL shit out of luck! It's just one of those never-ending debates that should be left to the scholars and theologians of the world.

Don't strain your brain folks.
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It's just one of those never-ending debates that should be left to the scholars and theologians of the world.
I thought that's who we are...
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I can't tell you if there is a god or not but I can tell you the exact moment that you will find out.
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Hello. My name is EL. My home was founded in Isreal. Yes before the Palestines. My phophet formed my beth there. My home, it was called the home of god or Beth-EL.
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hi rc,

if i recall, you tend towards the non-believing side, so i am guessing that this has some sarcasm to it - but i did not understand your last post.
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