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Old 11-05-2006, 08:24 PM   #16
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I can't believe that The Dave Clark 5 are not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. With all due respect to one of my favorite bands, R.E.M., The Dave Clark 5 deserve to be in there before R.E.M...

There are a lot of cross-over artist, in the RNRHOF. I don't think they they would exclude Connie Francis, Pat Boone, Herman's Hermits, The Carpenters, Neil Diamond because they don't typical fit the Rock and Roll image, although Michael Jackson is The King of Pop...

Isn't Pat Boone a Heave Metal artist?...
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The fact that Van Halen is not in there and U2 is negates any credibility they had, IMO.

It's the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame!!! U2 isn't rock and roll, they just have no where else to classify that drivel...
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The Dave Clark 5 are nominees and most def deserve to be in the Hall. With 24 charted hits, and one of the biggest British Invasion bands of the 60s and over 50million records sold, they are past due this honor. The credibilty of the Hall is in doubt with some of the inductees and nominees of the past and ommissions over the years. I mean The Stooges are nominees and Kiss insnt? Give me a break!!!
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The fact that Van Halen is not in there and U2 is negates any credibility they had, IMO.

It's the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame!!! U2 isn't rock and roll, they just have no where else to classify that drivel...
U2 definitely belongs, IMO. They've been one of the most prominent bands in the world the past 25 years; very successful in terms of commercial success, critical acclaim, and influence.

I agree that the Dave Clark 5 belongs.

Here is a cool link -- http://www.futurerockhall.com/future.php -- that lists bands who have been snubbed in recent years and also lists when current bands will become eligible.
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Went to see "The Flaming Lips in NYC a couple of weeks ago and it was one of the best shows I have ever been to. The band is just so universal, you don't have to know the language all you have to be is a little out there just like them. You walked out of the show and everyone seemed to be part of it. If you ever get a chance to see them, go for it, it was great, and that's why I would vote for them, they have been around since the 80's.

I'm just kidding, not about The Flaming Lips, but thinking that they should be in the Hall Of Fame before the other great groups. The groups that have been mention certainly have paid their dues.

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hi dee dee,

well here is something a bit ironic, to say the least. stephen stills got in under the buffalo springfield and csn. david crosby got in under the byrds and csn. but graham nash only got in under csn.

stills and crosby couldnt sing their way out of a wet paper bag. but graham nash had a beautiful voice. he was known as the everly brothers of his time. i doubt even he would know how many albums he sang backup on - but he was so sought out for his high vocals, that it more than likely was 100+. for that alone, he should have made it on his own, not counting 2 superb albums, "songs for beginners" and "wild tales". they also left out a pretty big band from the 60s, the hollies - which of course graham was a major member.
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hi dee dee,

you mentioned girl groups. the ronettes are nominated this year. the ronettes and crystals are very often thought of as very similar types of groups. each had 8 hits in the top 100. but the crystals had a 1, 3, and 6; while the ronettes only had a number 2 in the top 10.

so why did the ronettes get nominated before the crystals ?

well, one reason could be that ronnie got married to phil specter.

i am sure that there are a lot of politics that go on behind the scene.
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My feeling about the Ronettes, not that it was political but at the time they were the "Supremes" of that era, you couldn't walk into any place where music was that they were not being played, they were loved by everyone. They just had it wrapped if only it was for a few years, but wow they made the most of the time they had.

I think all of the girl groups at that time were just really great. Darlene Love to this day sounds just like she did back then, just great.

In my option with all of the girl groups, not enought of them get any air time, it's a shame because people are missing out of some good vibes.

Maybe The Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame should take another look at the history, starting with the drumming brought over from Africa


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i dont see how it can be called a r'n'r musuem since it doesnt chronicle the whole globe & its rise in other countries besides americ&britain.

There are some good rock bands from japan like flower travellin band & loudness but apparently internation bands dont seem like their given their dues
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I think for an act to get into the Hall of Fame, it should have at least two of the following three qualities:

Commercial Success
Critical Acclaim
Influence

Take a look at two different bands, one that's in and one that's not:

Velvet Underground has been inducted. They have critical acclaim and influence (there wouldn't have been an R.E.M. without Velvet Underground, yet alone most of punk music), but they sold virtually no albums.

The Monkees have not been inducted. They obviously had commercial success; they're still played on the radio. But they were shunned by the critics, and they were followers rather than an influence (they were an obvious copy of the British Invasion groups). So with only one of the three, they don't deserve to be in.

As for the girl groups, there should be more inducted. The ones already in (in order they were picked):

Supremes
Martha and the Vandellas
Shirelles

That's it. The Ronnettes absolutely deserve to be in. They should have gone in before the Vandellas or the Shirelles, if only for the song "Be My Baby". That song would have to be on the list of top ten songs of all time. Even if the Crystals had more hit songs, that one Ronnette song will last forever. Commercial success, critical acclaim, AND influence.

Besides the Ronnettes and Crystals, other girl groups to consider:

The Angels (My Boyfriend's Back)
The Chiffons (He's So Fine)
The Shangri-Las (Leader of the Pack)

I would say that's the list of girl groups to add. There are other lesser groups who some might want in as well, but I'd stick with the above five.
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hi road,

good, thoughtful post.

but let me play the devil's advocate with you.

i agree that your 3 points are good ones. but a group like the monkees, should be in there, even if they only had 1 of the 3, because they had HUGE commercial success. they basically replaced the beatles, when the beatles went to drug music. that was what the music industry wanted when they put the monkees together, because there were still a lot of people, such as myself, who did not want to hear weird stuff like "mr kite".

to be honest, i dont think any of the 5 girl groups that you mentioned did enough to actually be in the hall of fame. i mean if you look at sports, you had to be extremely good to be elected.

but "he's a rebel", "da doo ron ron", and "then he kissed me" have ever bit as much influence, commercial success as "be my baby". the crystals also had "he's sure the boy i love", "uptown", and "there's no other like my baby". and they came before the ronnettes. so in no way, do i see the ronnettes as being as deserving as the crystals - although like i said, i dont think either of them should be in the "hall of fame".

and the ronnettes are being considered before "herman's hermits" ?

in 1965, the beatles had 6 songs make the top 10 - the hermans hermits had only 8 songs make the top 100, but guess what - all 8 made the top 10. i can recall arguments about who was better - the beatles or hermans hermits. there werent too many groups that were compared to the beatles. the rolling stones were. and the supremes were. and that is about all that i can remember. of course, the beatles were melody oriented, the stones were rhythm and blues oriented, while the supremes were melody with a motown orientation. so all 3 groups were really quite different. the hermits and the beatles were very similar, musically. this was still while the beatles were playing their "i want to hold your hand" type of stuff. you know, the good stuff - before they got all whacked out with drugs and fame.
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I'll try to keep this short, to me the Beatles are in a league all of their own. To even compare the Monkees to them is a far stretch.

They took their music and their fans on a "Magical Mystery Tour" through out their short time that we had them with us as performers. The words that they put together with their music were amazing. They wrote about how they saw the world back then. If they stayed the sweet normal "Mop Heads" what a waste of good music we would have been deprived of.

When they put together "Love Songs" they were awesome.

As for all of the "drugs" and the "weird stuff", they were "Artist" and I "Thank" them for the "Magical Tour" they took me on

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hi dee dee,

i wasnt comparing the monkees to the beatles. what i said was that the musical purpose of the monkees was to be the new mop heads. and to that extent, they were wonderfully successful. they made every teen magazine, were wildly loved by females (especially davy). there werent too many artists that had that sort of popularity when you compare the various heydays of the artists. whether they had any critical acclaim or not, i would put them in the hall, because of their ERNORMOUS popularity.

i liked the early beatles a lot. i dont think of their words in any great way. i guess when i think of words, i think of dylan. now the words of his songs were something else. in fact, it would be a lot easier to come up with another elvis or beatles, than it would be to come up with another dylan.

dylan's influence in music was so huge and so different that he just cant be compared to anyone else.

with everyone else, elvis stands atop in his very own league. the beatles are quite a bit below elvis, but i agree that they also stand atop in their league. i did not mean to imply that the monkees should be put in the same league as the beatles.
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hi dee dee,

i was just rereading your post, and realized that at least you and i have different expectations with regards to music and artists.

i am gleaning that you felt a kindredship with the members of the beatles, when you mentioned taking a trip with them on their magical mystery tour.

i have never liked talk shows, or had much interest in any celebrity in a personal way. with musicians, i basically just care about the music - whether i like it or not.

i enjoyed the beatles music when they were just mop heads. so yes i would have preferred that they always played that sort of music. when they went druggie psychedelic, i just did not like that sort of music.

i probably like old country music the best. and most of those artists did not make major style changes, like the beatles did. either you liked them or you didnt, but you knew what to expect. to me, the beatles are 2 groups, early and late. the monkees had some pretty strange music towards the end of their career, as well.
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gosh, you mean linda is eligible, and not elected ? i cant believe such an omission.

her first hit with the stone poneys was in the late 60s. but she was by herself by the early 70s. in fact, the eagles was her backup band before they went on their own.
Its like the Eagles are in the HOF but Glenn Frey or Don Henley wouldn't be eligible until next year since they didn't release their solo stuff until about 1982.
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