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Old 09-09-2005, 11:02 AM   #1
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Read a couple different articles today claiming what a big threat to radio (satallite and terrestrial) the Ipod is. Any thoughts?

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More Automakers Announce iPod Support, Fallout for Radio?

More automakers are jumping to offer iPod support, following a trend
started by BMW just last year. The latest takers are Audi, Volkswagen, Honda and its luxury Acura division, all of whom were on hand in San Francisco Wednesday to show off iPod nano integrations. That adds to recently-announced support packages from Volvo, Mercedes, and Ferrari, with each manufacturer integrating controls and docking into the steering wheel, dashboard, or armrest console. Steve Jobs applauded the trend, and predicted that 30 percent of new cars will offer an iPod integration package by next year.

While the dashboard of the future is still in a formative stage, the
iPod is likely to offer a serious competitive threat to various radio offerings and digital music systems. Terrestrial radio, a mainstay on long commutes and trips, could face even more competitive pressure as users move towards personal collections stored on iPods. While the Apple devices don’t offer local and time-sensitive information like traffic, weather, and familiar deejays, consumers may begin to toggle between the two sources.
Meanwhile, satellite radio is also likely to see a major threat, especially since iPod collections do not require a monthly fee. But the biggest advantage that the iPod offers is complete accessibility throughout the automobile, house, or on-the-go. That is something that satellite radio is just beginning to offer with several new devices, though connectivity issues and higher hardware prices are still preventing new customers from diving in.
The other I read was in the news section on the Yahoo board comparing Sirius to AOL.
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No I don't think so. People who listen to the radio now are probably more likely to listen to satellite radio. People who hate the radio and always listen to CDs in the car are more likely to listen to ipods and other portable music players. I don't think they would get satellite radio anyway.

Personally I think the ipod is just some hipster trend. I would rather have a good stereo headunit that plays mp3 cds.
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:17 PM   #3
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face it... ipods are now mainstream.....

with that new ipod coming out (cant recall the name) I think I am finally going to take the plunge to get one.
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Personally I think the iPod and Sirius (XM too) work nicely together...

I hear LOTS of songs I've never heard before (or forgot that I liked) on Sirius, and then download the ones I really like for my iPod...

It all depends on my mood and whether I want to hear a specific song/artist, or want to have my musical tastes broadened..
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I personally am not interested an a Ipod as long as Sirius is here

I don't have the time or care to be bothered with downloading and burning, and buying CD's anymore. Since having Sirius for 3 years now, and just switched to lifetime w/ a 2nd unit yearly It is just so cost effective to have Sirius.

Between the Music, Comedy, Old time radio, Howard, Etc....
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Old 09-09-2005, 01:05 PM   #6
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The ipod craze has jumped the shark, IMO. How many different ways can Apple package the same thing?

The new Ipod Cabbage! Listen to your favorite music in cole slaw media.
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LOL so very true!!! Now iPod will go the way of Xerox machines.. Everyone will still use em and call em iPods, but other companies will be producing them... (Isnt Canon the best copier (aka Xerox Machine) nowadays?)


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The new Ipod Cabbage! Listen to your favorite music in cole slaw media.
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I have a Ipod and I only use it when I am on a plane. Prefer the variety on Sirius.
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I think the iPod is one of Sirius' main competitors (and all mp3 players in general). People want it to be [b]their[b] music. But, with an ipod you can't get all of the special events, personalities, and unique programming Sirius has. That is where Sirius has the lead.
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I have a Ipod and I only use it when I am on a plane. Prefer the variety on Sirius.
My iPod is exclusively for airplane use too, but, for that purpose, I can't live without it. Off the plane, it's Sirius/XM and my CDs.
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I think the iPod is one of Sirius' main competitors (and all mp3 players in general). People want it to be [b]their[b] music. But, with an ipod you can't get all of the special events, personalities, and unique programming Sirius has. That is where Sirius has the lead.

Sirius's biggest competitior is FM radio. I just don't see ipods/mp3 players as a threat. It either complements those who use Satellite radio or are for people not into satellite radio. Alot of people just don't have the time to search for music to load up on their ipods. Plus you dont' get the real time experience of satellite radio complete with sweepers and jocks, the ipod could never match. Its just YOUR music. You knows whats on it. Fun sometimes but I think it gets boring after awhile.
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If I had to speculate, I'd say iPod and satellite are competing for the dollar of those on a budget who can have one, but not both. Other than those folks, I agree that they complement each other, rather nicely I think.
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I think the iPod is one of Sirius' main competitors (and all mp3 players in general). People want it to be [b]their[b] music. But, with an ipod you can't get all of the special events, personalities, and unique programming Sirius has. That is where Sirius has the lead.
Ultimately that's there satellite radio and its competition with XM will live or die.

When I tell friends that I have Sirius, they say, "Well can't you get music for free?" I tell them you can't really appreciate the commercial-free status of the stations until you have it on for long stretches. Now that, to me, I grant is not very compelling.

But when I tell them about listening to the NFL games or the dedicated NFL talk station, that perks their ears up. Then I drop NHL and NBA on them.
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I've owned an ipod for sometime now and use it every now and then, but mainly it gathers dust. My Satellite radio (Sirius), I listen to day and night, car, home and sometimes on my boat.
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I think the iPod is one of Sirius' main competitors (and all mp3 players in general). People want it to be [b]their[b] music. But, with an ipod you can't get all of the special events, personalities, and unique programming Sirius has. That is where Sirius has the lead.
Bingo!

Which is why Sirius wisely came out with the MP3 uploadable S50. The people who boo-hooed the S50 as a bad idea are wrong. The S50 will give people satellite radio AND MP3/WMA capabilities in the same unit. People will also be able to receive live satellite content when the unit is docked.
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