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Old 12-24-2006, 12:53 AM   #16
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The testing procedures were incorrect in XM's case. I am sure Belkin should get creamed too but no one seems to care.
Sirius however told their manufactures to go above guidlines. There is a big difference nbetween the two.
I am not sure how Sirius has not recieved a fine.
There is no way on earth you could possibly know what SIRIUS or XM did behind the scenes. Sirius isn't in the manufacturing business and neither is XM. These manufactures knew the FCC rules just as well as XM and SIRIUS did. Can you provide a single shred of documented evidence, such as a memo where SIRIUS told the manufactures. Disregard the FCC guidelines? The answer is NO and you won't find one for XM either. Clearly they should have BOTH known better, including these manufactures. If there was such evidence then SIRIUS would indeed have received a fine. Also why is that the FCC came after XM first if SIRIUS was the only one really telling their manufactures to ignore the FCC guidelines?

The testing procedure was incorrect? ROTFLOL! Sure it was!
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I don't like the idea of another price...

It's already $15 CDN here for XM or SIRI and that's pushing it. Especially since we get a limited selection of stations. ): ):
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They shouldn't do any tiering until they can increase their selection. If they mess with the platform as it is now, customers might not like it. Especially if they have to pay the same for less. And if they reduce the amount of channels with the cost, then the company would lose revenue.

A lot of people seem to forget that Playboy Radio was also on XM for an extra fee.
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I don't like the idea of another price...

It's already $15 CDN here for XM or SIRI and that's pushing it. Especially since we get a limited selection of stations. ): ):
Isn't 15.00 Canadian about 3.75 USD ?

Just Kidding... Canada is my favorite country. You don't start senseless wars, you mind your own business, you have humor eh ?, and you have the best strip joints next to the Netherlands.

Just glad I'm not taxed 65% of my wages.
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I don't like the idea of another price...

It's already $15 CDN here for XM or SIRI and that's pushing it. Especially since we get a limited selection of stations. ): ):
Sirius and XM in U.S or Canada are in no position to increase prices. Well in U.S., maybe the family plan members. Until theycan get completely over the hump of revenues exceeding expenses (maybe by 2008) , they will crucify themselves. There is enough buyers distress deciding between the 2 services and dealing with the extra $ for the install. They need to really tighten up over the next 4 quarters, find ways to cut costs, retain present customers better and hit the pre-owned car market harder. Not to mention they need to merge the dam companies already. XM won't go for that right now anyhow because as much as Sirius wants to believe they would be the acquirer, they are chasing XM and have a higher cost structure. They need to continue to beat XM for another 4 quarters straight to make that claim and to prove its not just Howard Stern that was carrying them to all the new subs. What put Sirius on the map is what is also weighing them down.
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There is no way on earth you could possibly know what SIRIUS or XM did behind the scenes. Sirius isn't in the manufacturing business and neither is XM. These manufactures knew the FCC rules just as well as XM and SIRIUS did. Can you provide a single shred of documented evidence, such as a memo where SIRIUS told the manufactures. Disregard the FCC guidelines? The answer is NO and you won't find one for XM either. Clearly they should have BOTH known better, including these manufactures. If there was such evidence then SIRIUS would indeed have received a fine. Also why is that the FCC came after XM first if SIRIUS was the only one really telling their manufactures to ignore the FCC guidelines?

The testing procedure was incorrect? ROTFLOL! Sure it was!
I'm sure both companies knowingly allowed the radio manufacturers to exceed FCC standards. But my understanding was that Sirius admitted to directing their manufacturers to exceed the FCC standards. But, hey, this is old news anyway, right?
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I don't know what Sirius or XM have in mind but here is what the Video Game industry does. They do not make money on the console, (or with us it would be the receiver), where they make the money is on the games, (or with us would be the subscription.) I really think people will like satellite but they will never spend an average of $150 dollars to find out. Why not do like they did and give away the receivers, or at a greatly reduced price? Once people try this they will like it and keep it, in my opinion. I would like to see how many people, who have bought new cars AND subscribed to either satellite, have discontinued their subscription after having used the product? Why not make the receiver free with a mail in rebate if you subscribe for 3 or 6 months?

I know that satellite radio was a hard sell to my wife at first because of the large upfront cost on something I had no idea if I would like it or not. Again why not try and get people to try this and then make money off of them? Just my thoughts...anyone else?
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I don't know what Sirius or XM have in mind but here is what the Video Game industry does. They do not make money on the console, (or with us it would be the receiver), where they make the money is on the games, (or with us would be the subscription.) I really think people will like satellite but they will never spend an average of $150 dollars to find out. Why not do like they did and give away the receivers, or at a greatly reduced price? Once people try this they will like it and keep it, in my opinion. I would like to see how many people, who have bought new cars AND subscribed to either satellite, have discontinued their subscription after having used the product? Why not make the receiver free with a mail in rebate if you subscribe for 3 or 6 months?

I know that satellite radio was a hard sell to my wife at first because of the large upfront cost on something I had no idea if I would like it or not. Again why not try and get people to try this and then make money off of them? Just my thoughts...anyone else?
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I think this is basically what is being done by offering consumers " free " radios with a 6 month subscription. But you are correct, this would be good marketing and needs to be expanded to more expensive and varied units.... not just the " throw aways ' if you will.

Good ideas.
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I'm sure both companies knowingly allowed the radio manufacturers to exceed FCC standards. But my understanding was that Sirius admitted to directing their manufacturers to exceed the FCC standards. But, hey, this is old news anyway, right?
True very old news at this point....

But you are correct SIRIUS said they had personnel that may have instructed manufactures to exceed the FCC standards. In other words, the big wigs in corporate didn't know... just like folks here honestly think the big wigs at XM didn't know.. My point is that they both knew the law and they both knew they were exceeding the FCC standard. One of them came clean (well almost) and one of them didn't.
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